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[–] [email protected] 102 points 5 days ago (4 children)

You guys actually allow websites to send you notifications? Pretty much every site that has asked me to allow notifications is one that I wouldn't want notifications from.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, I am an IT guy and at our office there have been two users in the last year who has somehow enabled notifications from what is clearly a spam site which keeps spamming notifications as if it were McAffee Anti-Virus.

I need to get a policy pushed out to disable any requests for new notifications from websites...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Where I used to work, they got those from those shady pirated audiobook sites. Just log their DNS queries for a week and you’ll know what to block.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

You can do that with Firefox ESR across your company in a similar way to group policy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

Company's gitlab to have notifications pipeline (that I usually monitor when I push)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I use it for my self hosted apps, but yeah, it's rarely useful for websites in the wild.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Gmail, outlook web, whatsapp web, slack web ... just some examples of webapps that I use or used in the past that someone might legitimately want notifications from. Maybe you don't use them, or are not required to use them for work, and that's fine.

The article is specifically talking about android though, and there you'd most likely use an app for those, so I personally never needed them on mobile, but I can see someone else might need them.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Notifications in Chrome are a useful feature to keep up with updates from your favorite sites.

No, they most definitely are not. This is something I've never wanted or used, and almost certainly never will.

Why does this feature even exist?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's sometimes useful for messengers, tho. I mean, many of those are electron apps anyway, and those that are not are unlikely to have a sandbox as good as what browsers have.

Although, I agree: my default action for notifications is always reject, and then I can manually approve what I think I need.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Apps are the only way I can see it being useful. RSS readers, mail clients, chat clients etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

RSS readers are the way, yes; mail -- most of the time: there are pretty nice Foss options I can trust, although it's not always possible, like with free tier proton mail. As for chat clients, also true for android but not so true on desktops: like, I'm not exactly happy when telegram logs my window manager and so on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Not sure what you mean. I use them all the time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

came here to write this comment

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago

Why use ai for this? Just block notifications by default and manually allow the sites you want.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Unwanted notifications? I'll give you unwanted notifications:

https://xkcd.com/3074/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I firmly believe the day Randal dies will be the day many of us stop using the internet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

I love this

I hate it too but I love it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

nobody wants machine learning ai nonsense in a browser

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

No, I actually want that. There are use cases where it can really improve things - best example is the local translation feature in Firefox. Would you really rather have no translations, or ones that go through a server?

This also seems like a useful feature.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ok, so how can I, as web developer, monitor if my notifications are rejected by this?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

Anti-abuse measures such as this are generally designed to not provide that kind of feedback. The website developer is modeled to be an adversary, and you don't volunteer valuable information on what has worked against your countermeasures, and what hasn't, to your designated enemy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Isn’t it ironic!