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Now that we have determined in this thread that a friendly/flirty conversation is indeed not harassment, women are just people too, the old gender roles are dead and public parks are a singles hunting ground, how do I make it clear I'm open to being approached?

Since chatting someone up is out of the question for me, I'd rather hedge my bets on some women using those tricks all you Casanovas left in that thread on me. We're all progressive here, I don't see why the man must start this dance.

But I can't help but notice that this plan has not worked at all yet. How do I express I'm single and ready to mingle, except by just having that printed on my shirt? Like was said, having just a friendly conversation with any gender would be a start, can't remember those happening in a while either.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

You seem to be confusing what you want with gender roles. Nobody said that men must make the first move. Many satisfying relationships start because women make the first move. But by consequence of the fact that you want a relationship, it naturally then follows that you'd have to make the first move.

IMO using props is a poor move. Might get your foot in the door, but it'll be obvious that your interest/commitment to the prop is not genuine. People can tell if you're acting, so I would ignore any comment that tells you to imagine and act out a scenario - doubly so if you're using a prop.

The trick is to realize that a cold call almost never works. There is a very low chance that any one person you run into on the street is looking for a relationship, and an even lower chance that they'd be willing to bet on a stranger for that relationship. So you're facing 2 filters that are lowering your chances that any one person you meet would want to get into a relationship with you.

You can't affect the first filter, but you can at least change the second filter - just don't be a stranger. It's easier said than done, but it's possible with concerted effort. To put it bluntly: be amicable and be social. Put yourself in situations where you meet people, and befriend them. And you are by far more likely to run into a potential partner from the people you already know than in a public park. I don't even mean to pretend to be friends - I mean actually be friends. Socializing has a compounding effect where the more you socialize, the more people you get introduced to. That's also important because of the fact that you can't affect the first filter. Clearing the first filter is really a numbers game, to simply know a lot of people.

You'll need to learn to maintain a social circle. Based on what I can tell, you seem to either be an introvert or have social anxiety. And honestly, I understand. I can't say that the process will be easy or that it's fair that extroverts have a leg up in the process, but the unfortunate reality is that society is built upon the assumption that people are social, and you have to play by those rules. The upshot is that more people are willing to be in a relationship than you'd think, and you don't really have to expand your social circle that much or maintain it that well before you come across someone who agrees to be in a relationship with you.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

be in the moment

speak about the moment

if that moment isn't happening, dont force it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Wear a t-shirt that says I'm single you can talk to me.

I'm kidding. Sort of.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wear a button that says "I'm approachable!"

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably the best thing I ever did to get random people to talk to me was growing a big curly handlebar moustache, now complimented with a long bushy beard.

My fashion choices also tend to make me stand out a bit- brightly colored Hawaiian shirts in the warmer months (I have one with pictures of the dog breed I have on it, that gets a lot of people approaching me,) occasionally a kilt (people love to ask about the kilt) interesting sunglasses, hats (used to wear a bowler occasionally, I'm less of a fan of it these days, panama hat in the summer, etc.)

Clothing and style choices are a little tricky. There's kind of a fine line between wearing something interesting that makes people want to talk to you and coming across as a fedora-wearing neckbeard who's trying too hard. Those choices have to look good on you, you have to like them and give off a bit of confidence while wearing them, and it has to be something that will catch the attention of the kind of person you want to attract.

And most importantly, you need to be able to carry a conversation from there. That's the hard part.

Having some story or a joke at the ready is a pretty good crutch to kind of get yourself over that last part. For example my go-to when people come up to me to compliment my beard/moustache is to joke that "I grew it myself" which is usually good for a chuckle, and then the ice is broken, and you can kind of try to steer the conversation from there.

I've had a lot of fun conversations with strangers and made a few friends along the way. I never personally had much luck turning that into a romantic relationship, but that was also never something I actively pursued much in general, I just kind of let things go from there and through friends who I met that way I eventually met my wife.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Hawaiian shirt, interesting sunglasses, hat, beard, moustache... are you Dr Jacobi?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just get it printed on a shirt.

Along with something funny.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You have to talk to them.

Try to just be friends. Try to be funny. Try to be a little irreverent. Unpredictable. Amusing.

Nice day huh?

Did you see that cool show / game last night / dog that ran by just now with a six pack of beer?!

Excuse me you look really familiar. Have we met before?

Hi I’m Fred what’s your name? (Only do this if your name is Fred otherwise it gets awkward)

If they blow you off whatever. That one was just practice.

You got this bud!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Way to miss the question, I know that works for some but for me it's not going to happen. Unless you can tell me why I can't take the role that never needs to initiate I'm not interested into being psyched up.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Because gender roles are actually still a thing and (most) women won't approach strange men in parks.

At a party? Different story. Ideally smaller ones with mutual friends

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Unless you can tell me why I can't take the role that never needs to initiate

Because then it's simply out of your control if it ever happens. It's still out of your control if it ever works but having a say in when it happens gives you a massive advantage. Being able to approach someone also makes those instances where you're being approached far more comfortable. Not trying to make it sound like the other route can't work out at all but showing initiative is imo the easier route long term. And I say this as someone with social anxiety.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you don't initiate, you rely on others to give you what you want. If you approach yourself, you're making what you want happen.

There is no "role that never needs to initiate". Women have always been initiating, just less than men and maybe in a more indirect way. If women want something, they also make sure to try and get it.

In the end, the only thing you're doing is not taking responsibility about your own happiness.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Women have always been initiating, just (...) in a more indirect way.

Well, tell me those indirect ways!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In the context of cold random approaches, women almost never do that. They don't need to, because so many men are approaching them that they simply don't have to do the work. Why would you risk rejection when you can just chill and be approached and thus get guaranteed interest? They just mostly pick out of the approaches they get. Gender roles might be theoretically dead, but practically, they're very much alive.

One of the indirect ways is simply looking at you and looking friendly. That is them indirectly approaching you by showing you that you can approach them. How to make sure that is their intention is almost impossible because different people have different mannerisms and you don't know what the person you're looking at's mannerisms are. They might just generally look at people and look friendly. For someone else, they might look but look bored and that's their face for them wanting you to approach them. Or someone looking at you but quickly looking away when you look may be wanting you to approach (they were just embarrassed for staring), but they might also just think you look weird and that's why they stared.

Approaching someone is not wrong, but it's almost impossible to know if someone wants to be approached unless you approach them. It's a paradox without a proper solution.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Relationships take effort, like all the time. If you are not willing to put effort into meeting someone, then you are not ready to be in a relationship.

You seriously need to analyze what kind of person you want to attract/ communicate with/ hook up with/ chill with..

Maybe try dating apps so you can filter what you want specifically out of a relationship.

But on the real, you need to open up and broaden your horizons. You can find relationships anywhere on this planet if you're willing to talk to people, show kindness and compassion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I’ve been approached by a woman exactly one time. We’ve now been married for 21 years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do something poorly/dangerous in the gym, attach yourself (politely) to the person who comes to help,

Or do something you're passionate about and offer your knowledge to people who are earnestly trying their best but not doing it well (be conscience and ask if they'd like your experience to guide them)

Alternatively go hang out at an old folks home, they'd love your company, they'll regail you with stories from their glory days, and they'll probably talk you up to their family.

Volunteer your time at animal shelters/public service events.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Re: the old folks home - sometimes people do volunteer singing groups for entertainment. If you like singing and are halfway OK at it (or at least sound good in a group), I recommend it if you find the opportunity, and like the kind of music old people may enjoy (I dig the Kingston Trio hard now, which was a wildly unexpected turn of events).

To this day, one of my favourite memories was doing one of these shows with an audience member going off about banging dudes under the boardwalk after we sang "Under the Boardwalk", smoking banana peels, and all sorts of things that made her my favourite person over 70 (sorry Grandma).

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

attach yourself (politely) to the person who comes to help

This probably explains some of the interactions I've had when all I wanted to do is to help someone in need. Not in the gym, but mostly in the streets. Like someone getting lost, and offering to show them the way. Or offering my seat to the elderly.

But really, being helpful sometimes is all it takes for give someone the reason to talk to you (and vice versa). Not that I managed to be in a relationship with this kind of a start.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

As other people have mentioned conversation starters, interesting social props, and such, I have to circle back to your original post. You spoke down of printing it on your shirt. I say, don't print "single and ready to mingle" on it. But something like, "Ask me anything", you'd be surprised. I was an information resource for a big event and they had a half dozen people in shirts that just said Ask me with a big question mark on it. After the week was over I would sometimes wear the shirt and would have lots of people stop me because of it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

What you need, my friend, is a slump buster. Casual sex with a woman you otherwise wouldn’t be interested in. I don’t know if it’s a sixth (or 7th or 8th) sense that women have, but they can tell if you’ve gotten any recently. If you have, it makes you more desirable. Alternatively, a good wank before going out in public, but that’s not nearly as effective. I ended many droughts with a slump buster back in my single days.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Get a dog, or a child; they’re chick-magnets. Even if not your own. Maybe you could take a nephew/niece/whatever to the playground once a week? Walk the neighbour’s dog for a few blocks? As someone else said, once there’s a prop, they’re not approaching you directly, they’re interacting with a common interest, and that’s a good way to meet people.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If you're a dude and you wanna be approached by regular women and not gold-diggers, you kinda have to be cute. If you're not too handsome you will have to go outside and wait a lot, I guess, even more so if you don't give off "approachable vibes". Or you could do what most men have done since time immemorial: learn a bit about people and what makes them smile and go do that regardless of your fears.

And what is this nonsense about being progressive and "gender roles". Women are scared kittens and the mere possibility of rejection, public or not, wrecks most of their psyches. And men are hornier (else the prostitution market would look very different, lol), so they know they'll be approached eventually, at least in their younger years. You're not battling ideology, you're battling economy! You will have to make a move, unless you're handsome enough that a woman makes a cost-benefit analysis and finds the risk of EMOTIONAL DAMAGE worth the prize. You might be! If so, well, go outside. If not, you're gonna have to be brave and do the unthinkable: talk to women and risk ridicule. Most women are nice, sweet and non-confrontational, at least IME, and if you know the least about women you can tell the bad apples apart easily, so give it a go.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago

Step #1 - Be attractive.

Step #2 - Be very outgoing.

Step #3 - Be ridiculously charming.

Do this, and you will attract interest from random strangers who see you being wonderful, and want to be involved in whatever you are doing and / or saying.

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