Jesus, people analyzing Debian releases like if it was the stock market 😂
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It's been reported (Debian mailing list, Phoronix, Linuxiac) that Debian 13 will likely be out this summer. The hard freeze is on May 15 and usually that means the actual release is pretty close, just a couple of months away.
Phoronix speculated that ,since Debian 12 went from initial freeze to stable release in 5 months, Debian 13 could release around August.
Pleeaaasssee get kernel 6.14 in, or at least to Backports. I've been doing work to support the new dual screen Zenbook Pro in Linux, and I'm having to do it with Ubuntu 25.10 because Backports only goes to 6.13. Though my trusty remove-snap script still works.
Debian stable only uses LTS kernel releases, so unfortunately you'll need to wait for it to appear in trixie-backports.
Yeah, I just finally updated the last remaining servers to bookworm this weekend, so a next release is probably coming soon. Proven by earlier experiences
Dude chill it's not crypto
The day I do the old fashioned sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade and everything suddenly breaks is when I know I’m on Debian 13.
unless they have stable instead of bookworm on their sources.list
I really wish they had easier way to switch to newer version. It works for me, since it's not that hard to edit sources.list (or debian.sources nowadays), but I don't get why they don't make a tool that does a release upgrade like on Ubuntu. Could even list changes made to the sources file during execution for that matter.
If you didn't mess with your sources.list it won't switch to the new release automatically.
debian updates usually go pretty smooth in my personal experience. last time i had an annoying problem with the nvidia proprietary drivers, but that was an exception (i had no such problem in previous updates) and i think it was my fault
Why would that break on Debian 13?
i made a spreadsheet of debian release dates, graphed the days between releases and calculated a probable release date based on last release date + average days between releases* +/- 1 std deviation
if i remember correctly, bookworm was within my predicted range (apr-aug 2023, i think) and we're now fully within trixie's predicted range
*before etch (4.0), release intervals varied wildly, so I don't take those into consideration
That's a nice graphic. I'd love to see something comparing it to a rolling release or fedora.
Unfortunately, it wouldn't tell you anything because you'd compare apples with oranges.
But since opensuse has a (multiple) stable and rolling release, how would it look there? More like the testing release?
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