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It's the classic bad faith tactic of claiming the opposite of what actually happens
Microsoft was always big on Embrace Extend Extinguish. And nothing really changed.
The problem isn't just the servers being in the US, the bigger problem is that the USA's CLOUD Act allows them to get any data from any server, anywhere, provided that it is owned by an American company. This article from the Dutch National Cyber Security Center explains it a bit more.
Found the typo: We will ~~continue~~ eventually start, if threatened with severe fines one day to protect the privacy of European data.
If they would care, they wouldnt need to tell US this.
Show, not tell
Doesnโt really matter what they say they will do in the EU market as long as they are obliged to follow US law.
I am beginning to think Microsoft is just out to make money
I, for one, am shocked.
Yeah... no. Commitment ends at the tip of a pen signing a new executive order.
Man, fuck Microsoft with the scratchy side of Velcro.
Beat it with a dead cat until the cat meows.
Gross
They know it, we know it. The year of the Linux desktop is upon us. This time for real.
At my work we are already moving away from Azure, though not everything all at once, and this won't change that. Those of us who work with it never wanted to in the first place, and have since Trump's inauguration gotten the ammo to convice leadership to force our IT department (who's heavily boased towards MS products) to relinquish control. It will be more difficult getting the company off of MS365 though, unfortunately.
I have a small industrial company and we are transitioning away. Quickly.
Currently, only CAD stations are a problem, the rest is on track to be MS free by the end of the year.
Where are you moving to? What are viable alternatives for small companies where owning your own servers is not straightforward?
We have a few VPS outside Azure, but the reliability compared to Azure is noticeable. At the moment I would love to move, but nothing (European) gives us uptime guarantees that we need to promise our customers in our SaaS solution.
I understand there is the whole argument that until there is demand there will not be the resource. But until there is the resource then e we canโt begin to switch and create the demand.
Of course, there may be perfect alternatives already that I just donโt know about.
- Emails will likely go to mailbox.org, only with the web interface (no client).
- Computers are moving to Ubuntu.
- CRM is currently still Hotspot, but we will likely move away next year.
- Cloud solution is NextCloud with a small server on premise (we don't have very large data, besides CAD, which are on Dassault's cloud).
- Project management is moving to open project.
My plan is to move to odoo as ERP and build up our infrastructure progressively.
Regarding to software, I'd rather pay developers for ad hoc solutions, than for licenses. I think I'll need to hire one guy dedicated to this.
My network-guy is a good friend who doesn't charge too much for now.
All in all, it's going to be a bit more expensive in the beginning.
Odoo does CRM quite well. It also does project management, but sure yet it's as good at it as OpenProject.
EU should go hard Foss and deny these parasites profits
Yep, they even promised to move their entire corp away from the USA and to the EU the moment the orange clown in the White House would ask them to threaten or to jeopardize in any way EU sovereignty. And I would have 100% believed them if only they had thought of adding a '6 Free chocolate box for all EU users'.
I can't say no to a chocolate box.
Nice try Microsoft, nice try.
As long as it isn't US chocolate.
Really coming out strong with the first promise being "WE DONT CARE, WERE DOING THIS IMMORAL THING ANYWAYS BECAUSE WEVE DELUDED OURSELVES INTO THINKING IT WILL GET US MONEY"
Let's start with:
we will not be collecting any data without customers permission
we will not force any updates on our customers
we will stop changing things for the sake of changing and we will pay you 100 euros for every nonsensical movement of options between menus, change of font you didn't ask for, change of start menu location
we will not be forcing you to log yourself in if you need help. In fact we won't require any login at all.
we will not be pushing inferior solutions if the existing solutions work better
Microsoft, remove point 1 from the list, please.
I guess thatโs the one thing they actually are doing.
Well they would say this when countries like Sweden are literally giving them land for free to build like 50 data centres there.