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Its still a good interview after that, but Cameron says a lot of dumb lib shit lol. Lucas is consistent throughout, even correcting Cameron from "British empire" to "American empire"

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Although I was never a huge Star Wars fan, I do have tremendous respect for Lucas because of this and also for big fans that understand this aspect.

I wonder what Lucas thinks or feels about Star Wars fans who worship the Empire or like the Rebels but then join the US military in real life.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Cameron's heart is in the right place, as evidenced by his movies, but he just doesn't have the sauce. I'm actually pretty thoroughly convinced that the issues with the prequels was too many yes men and sycophants. As well as not having Marcia Lucas editing.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Cameron is a little lost, but he's not entirely clueless to things, he's interesting to say the least.

From the original Avatar script

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Uhh.....

The literal axiomatic "good guys" are magic space cops and the main story is about how they cannot police their own nor can they police their political structure so the entire galaxy falls into a fascist regime that can only be saved by yep you guessed it the same "good guys" who fucked up the first time, joined by a sins of the father trope character.

The Jedi Order collects devshirme (blood tax) because it quite literally rips away force sensitive children from their families. It's quite literally one of the Order's primary functions. Qui Gon Jinn was going to let Anakin rot in slavery until he realized he was force sensitive. Furthermore it tells these children to forget their feelings for their family as part of their training. it's literally Janissary shit.

Furthermore most of the media treat this like Anakin is totally wrong for coping the way that he does because his literal choices are between slavery under a happy merchant style character and slavery under a child cop training program, but he's the magical chosen boy so he should be thankful that he never gets to see his mother again until he see's her violent death. What a piece of shit, loving his mom, having feelings for his family, doesn't he know that there are more important things like institutions that are axiomatically good and their extremist religious beliefs???

Jedi's esp prior to Disney were religious zealots. They literally had their own terms for apostasy that were differentiated from followers of the "bad" religion, e.g. Dark Jedi were apostates and Sith were the evil religion guys. The Jedi Order does not recognize anything outside of it's orthodoxy as "good".

Oh and the whole Anakin thing literally happened because their prophecy which was defined as "bringing balance to the force" was always interpreted as wiping out the Sith. It was essentially heresy that "balance" could possibly mean the ruination of the order because the Sith believed loosely in Rule of 2 and there was quite literally battalions of Jedi.

Canonically the question of "why would anyone trust the Jedi as negotiators since they have the power of mind control?" Is literally answered by the fact that they do not police capital with no further thought on why that's a good answer logistically speaking or morally speaking. And the whole neutrality thing is canonically a lie as well both in the trilogies and in Legends. Jedi are consistently not impartial.

A large chunk of the story is centered on Tatooine a planet with outright slavery, our "good guys" regardless of their level of institutional power at any given point in the plot have always just shrugged their shoulders at this. By the way when Starwars guys defend this they always say something like the Jedi coudl never stand up to the Hutts because of you name it, "jusidiction", "alliances", and "strength". Which is funny because the guy who controls the Five Families after the fall of the Republic is literally Darth Maul. So yeah our "good guys" can't end literal slavery for no good reason.

Like Lucas can say what he wants, and I believe that he believes it and I believe that he took inspiration from all the leftist political things he says he took inspiration from. But, he's libbed up as hell, and the story line is basically exhalted good guys vs exhalted bad guys duke it out in space with everyone else dodging lasers and orbital cannons. The lore of the Jedi actually makes them fairly awful fascists in their own right.

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