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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 hours ago

Good news and fun fact, the entirety of Wikipedia can be downloaded quite easily.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 hours ago

They literally don't generate any revenue. Wikipedia is quite literally the definition of a non-profit.

Also, trump is barred from running non-profits due to fraud in NY, I feel like that should disqualify him from making these kinds of decisions.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Wikipedia, archive.org, and any similar essential services ought to be migrating their hosting and organizational headquarters to outside the US ASAP.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

That's not something you can just do. All of there employees are Americans.

It would be better if they were spread across many countries so that one place couldn't cause a problem.

[–] [email protected] 149 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Publicly available factual information is a threat to an authoritarian regime

[–] [email protected] 52 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

To quote something from lefty blogs in the W era: "Reality has a clear leftwing bias"

[–] [email protected] 23 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Was he the originator? I thought he was cribbing DailyKos or similar...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know. It is widely attributed to the him however.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

If there's ever been a himmer him than him I don't want to know him

[–] [email protected] 46 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

All you selfhosters out there, this is the cue to make your mirrors

[–] [email protected] 23 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Got my snapshot from Jan.

It's only 20gb.

You need an offline viewer. That's a snap /flat hub install. Kiwix I believe

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Says ~110gb for all of english version via kiwix. Did you exclude images or something?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Yes, they’re are different versions. Maxi is the 110GB one, there is also a nopic version that is quite a bit lighter.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

We have to protect Wikipedia. We have to.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If they take it down we'll make it again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Gotta back it up

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

We need a federated Wikipedia (Fedipedia)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

I feel like that is a mixed bag

It really isn't bad as is

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Does Wikipedia receive federal funding? If not, people can shut right up.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago

I think it's in the single digit percentages of their funding.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

They're pretty flush with cash still. Trump can go after them, but for what? They'd need more corruption than they have in the judicial system today. They'll get there eventually, but they don't have it yet.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Is there any way to decentralize Wikipedia? P2P wikipedia? Because that seems like the best long term solution to this.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, start with a mirror. A download is enough for yourself, but mirrors retain what is needed to rebuild the database. You will meed a lot of storage

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I torrented the text of english wikipedia one time and deleted it a few weeks after to make space for my Monero node. What I meant by "decentralized Wikipedia" would be not only the files being stored in multiple locations but there also being some sort of system (including moderation I suppose) to broadcast edits across the network

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Wikipedia over IPFS, it seems to be a work in progress, but its something

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'll have to stop you right there, mate. You are reinventing blockchain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

It's more akin to torrenting really, I stumbled upon Wikipedia over IPFS

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

How would that work?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

The media manipulation information warfare department has virtually unlimited funds and anyone who steps out of line and questions the narrative gets the banhammer. That's why they went after TikTok.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Wikipedia has always been a right wing propaganda outlet. Libbiest among the supergigalibs. What is this post even talking about? I wish N4zipedia shuts down

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Please give an example of an objectionable article

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

I gathered by the instance but I wanted to provoke the response

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 hours ago

To be fair it is a little left leaning and the editors sometime massive jerks.

However, it really isn't bad at all. They do a pretty decent job of publishing factual information and Wikipedia is useful to a lot of people. Even if it was publishing propaganda they would still be protected under free speech. There are way more sketchy non profits than Wikipedia. It is kind of scaring that it is now a target