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[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Let's also replace the customers by AI, that way the whole system will really be "AI first" and self-sufficient.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

it's a matter of time (or more likely has already happen) where an AI company ends up having only AI users, it makes money be selling adds to show to the users, which are all AI bots, and then selling those bots as user data.

then said company celebrates that it has no humans involved making a shit ton of profit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

So Twitter?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Afraid to find out what an AI Karen would be like.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

if the labor cost goes down, the service should become cheaper.

if it worked like that, i'd love to have AI replace humans.

AI isn't the problem. capitalism is.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The AI slop is why I quit Duolingo after my 1500+ day streak.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is there an alternative? I just started using it but the experience is incredibly grating, especially the way they gate your progress behind "lives" that stop you learning unless you can pay.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yarr, thar be an alternative. Though some might'n be thinking acquiring such booty be illegal.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If you looking to replace dualingo, check with your local library, they may offer free access to different language learning apps. I was able to get Rosetta Stone for free using my library. And they also have access to Muzzy and Transparent language.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My son is going to be sad that we don't use duo anymore

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

your local public library (if in US) should offer free language courses online - all you need is a library card

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Maybe time to boycott the service (which anyway was not that spectacular)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

So is there any Duolingo alternative that teaches Esperanto and Indonesian?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

is indonesian that difficult? it has no tenses

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Esperanto you can learn on lernu.net

[–] [email protected] 195 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Duolingo is a tragedy. They really quickly realized that you don’t make money teaching things - you make it on retention and gamification.

Mango languages is great if your library has a subscription. I believe the US’s foreign service materials are also really good, if you want effective but boring.

[–] [email protected] 123 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I was so upset last year when they got rid of the comment section. There were often helpful explanations for WHY you conjugate the word that way, or how native speakers might use a different word.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't know how good this feature was on Duolingo, but there's a site/app called HiNative that does a really good job at this sort of thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

that looks cool. Thank you for pointing it out!

[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Yeah, the comment section was amazing...and then they came out with "max", where you get "explain my answer" for a premium, powered by a [notoriously fallible] LLM. This is the definition of enshitification.

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Duolingo has enshittified so much over the last few years.

Even if I had the ability to become a millionaire tech founder, I don't think I'd want to because every "I want to make learning new languages free and easy for everyone" becomes a "I have to drive 3% more ad revenue this quarter by charting my users' every bowel movement".

I suspect the reality of being a rich tech bro is watching your adult self slowly consume your own childhood dreams, aspirations, and soul.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Enshittification is not driven by the founders (mostly, fuck Zuckerberg). It's driven by greedy investors who want their billion dollar unicorn payout and who who will risk a hundred company failures to get it.

A lot of tech companies that manage to resist outside investors are doing just fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I mean, true, but maybe the founders shouldn't take investment in the first place?

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I have found Duolingo much, much less useful for language learning than Language Transfer. The latter actually helps you learn to think in another language rather than memorize things (which is still useful, but not nearly as much).

Short if total immersion, I have found nothing better than LT.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 week ago

If you decide to cancel your subscription and delete your account, they give a warning when deleting that says you need to cancel your subscription SEPARATELY. Just a heads up for anyone thinking of leaving like I did.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Apparently they've already been incorporating it and it's very inaccurate. I've decided to stop using them and have switched to LingoDeer and MemRise. Really pleased with how much better they are.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

“Duolingo will remain a company that cares deeply about its employees”

Except for the contract employees. Fuck those people.

In 2012, we bet on mobile. [...] That decision helped us win the 2013 iPhone App of the Year and unlocked the organic word-of-mouth growth that followed. Betting on mobile made all the difference. We’re making a similar call now, and this time the platform shift is AI.

I think this is some sort of fallacy, not sure which tho. Maybe a hasty generalization? "We bet on mobile twelve years ago and won, so if we bet on AI now we'll also win."

*It also seems they're using AI to code... those poor programmers will have to double check every single line it shits out because you know, it's a fucking AI. Yet another company succumbs to a CEOs emotional FOMO.

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