Memes

What zero political understanding does to mf'er. Russia only reoriented towards China after its attempts joining the west were brutally rebuffed.

• "joined the west as an equal partner"

• Shock therapy, isolation, and NATO expansion

Can't have both, libs, and your masters picked the latter. Now you cheerlead the people who dupe you.

Putin literally asked for Russia to join NATO, more than once, and was rejected

You could've joined the west as an equal partner.

...Hey, remember Yeltsin?

Wow. Unfunny and racist.

The unpleasant reality is, Russians, like the Chinese, have never, in all their long history, existed without authoritarian rule. Their people are culturally inured to it. They actively seek it. They’re broken, as a society, and only dissolving their society will cure them.

The libs are not ok.

LMAO I love how the new cope is going to be that Russia is being colonized by China. It's a pretty funny mask off moment since it's rooted in racism and the idea that Russia should obviously prefer to bend over for the western world order. It's also pure projection since westies can't even conceive of two countries having a mutually beneficial relationship where nobody gets exploited.

Actual context in the original scene fits this scenario since Mike is putting the blame on Waltuh while this is what actually happened:

In the seconds after this meme, Walter(Russia) proceeds to shoot and kill Mike(NATO).

I don't think the Libs thought this one through...

Also the Soviet Union was overjoyed at the thought of a Post-War continuation of the Allies, and because the fact that the entire West German leadership were Nazi's, they readily applied for NATO membership, in fact they were one of the first countries to do so. They thought they could avoid hostilities with the US, and prevent an arms race or possible WW3. When they were rejected, they somberly realized what was going on and quickly organized the Warsaw Pact.

The Soviets also offered on two separate occasions to reunify Germany and establish it as a neutral country outside either spheres of influence. This would include the withdrawal of all Soviet, American, French, and British assets and forces. This was soundly rejected.

You could've joined the West as an equal partner

It's sad lemmy has become a place for blatant reactionary propaganda. Who controls lemmy?

This meme only works if you assume that the west is benevolent and their "support" helps other nations, and that Russia never actively engaged with them diplomatically, and that China has some secret plan to control Russia or something.

I guess when you're a lib, your head is stuck so far up your own ass that you can't actually see the world for what it is so a meme like this would make sense to them.

As a person in the Imperial Core, I still can't comprehend how backwards the logic is here that most Americans would read this meme and think it's grounded in reality. Even having been the kind of guy who would believe it once, I still don't understand.

I think it's just racist indoctrination to believe Russians are evil.

Holy shit this is so ahistorical it hurts.

History literally starts with each rising of the zun and ends with each setting of the zun for these fucking worms doest it?

It endlessly amazes me how stupid libs are. You have economist Jeffrey Sachs the architect of the failed shock therapy who was front row for the post USSR Russia on what must be hundreds of interviews in the past two years now explaining in plain words that the US never ever once intended for Russia to be an equal or even to join NATO.

The West removed Russia from being its ally against China, in the 90s to 2000s, the mistake is that they wanted it weak and submissive to American interests equal to QUE, the USA does not want similars but vassals

No they couldn;t have joined as an equal partner

The opposite seems more truthful : the n.a.t.o. and e.u. were given every chances to welcome Russia, but they immediately took steps to establish their hegemony(, including the bombing of Yugoslavia, and the whole Middle-East), before "protecting protesters" in Lybia V.Putin already knew that we were the biggest liars on Earth, he saw what was hidden behind our lies and opposed Dmitry Medvedev(, almost every article from 2011 says that it was rare for him), who was ready to believe us one more time(, and quickly regretted his trust).
We(sterners) had more than one chance to be united in diversity, we still have this possibility now, instead we're opposing everyone who doesn't conform to our "values". If we(sterners)'re not stopped then neo-colonialism won't end and any country judged too diverse will be forced to conform. Also, Russia is considered too large/powerful and hence too difficult to control, thus a potential threat to western hegemony/"enforced peace", allowing western hegemony may imply a smaller and/or less powerful Russia.
There's more details on everything that Russia(, and even the u.s.s.r. before,) did in order to unite with the west, but we're so certain of our moral&economic&military&.. superiority that we won't agree to any concession.
It's a badly written comment, there's only two arguments and i'd have to search in my computer folders for any sources i may have(, i remember that in the first years after Yeltsin resigned, V.Putin took many measures to unite with the west, and obtained such things as the NATO-Russia Council). I still think that there's a lot of truth in writing that Russia had&'will have' to abandon its diversity in order to have a hope of uniting with the west(, in the sense of not being unfairly attacked by our politicians&medias since they're probably too big to be integrated into the e.u. anyway, they could join n.a.t.o. but they would have to agree with our goal for hegemony and apparently prefer to suffer than being immoral).