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The original was posted on /r/technology by /u/Wagamaga on 2025-04-19 17:06:58+00:00.

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[+] 130 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] 102 points 1 year ago (60 children)

The Bay Area is probably the only thing keeping that company alive. Every stoplight you pull up to there has at least a couple Teslas

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  • [–] 77 points 1 year ago (48 children)

    I know a lot of people who bought teslas before musk became a full blown oligarch and feel uncomfortable about it

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    Any car is sold at a loss. As someone who recently paid one of these off, I can’t stomach a new car payment in the face of our melting economy because six years ago I didn’t foresee the head of a car company turning out to be a freaking nazi.

    Considering my Tesla replaced a VW TDI, I’m feeling particularly salty and completely disillusioned about ethical consumption under capitalism, etc. etc. I wish people on Lemmy could have some empathy and not just assume that everyone driving a Tesla is sanctioning anything that Elon Musk does.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I'm currently driving that VW TDI -- best car I've ever owned in 35 years. Next vehicle wasn't going to be a Tesla, but perhaps an F150 Lightning if they ever get their head out their asses and offer a regular old e-pickup -- I don't want quad cab and a short bed, just two doors and a regular full size bed would be great. Alas, that's hard to find in ICE, let alone electric.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Even in iowa you see them all over. There are so many drivers any car make other than the most exclusive will be seen soon if you fixate on it (read look).

    Stastics show tesla is a tiny brand by market share. However they are wer the only ev brand until reciently so people focus on them.

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    [–] 82 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This belongs in uplifting news

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  • [–] 69 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Just imagine if there wasn't a crazy tariff on Chinese cars the figure would be even lower. BYD are making some great cars

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    BYDs are everywhere now in Australia. Not sure what alternative brands are available in the US, is it just Rivian?

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    And other Chinese brands!. The MG4 is super popular in Australia too. Can get it for about $38k AUD ($25k USD).

    Even if Tesla wasn't tarnished by association with Musk, they have absolutely nothing at the budget end of the market. ie for buyers that traditionally bought corollas, little Mazdas and Hyundai's.

    And BYD has the whole range, if I want a luxury sedan the BYD Seal goes toe to toe with the model 3.

    I think China is going to eat everyone's lunch here in the same way Japan did in the 70s/80s, and Korea went in even cheaper in the 90s and 00s (how many Hyundai Excels/Accents were there in Australia in late 90s early 00s).

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    On the more affordable end around here I see a lot of electric cars from Ford, Chevrolet, Kia, and Hyundai around here, and to a lesser extent Volkswagen. On the high end it’s mostly Mercedes-Benz and BMW, sometimes Porsche. Once in a while I’ll see Rivian but they don’t have a dealership in our state. Even more rarely I’ll see Polestar, which does have a dealership in a city at the other end of the state, and at least one person here has a Lucid Air.

    Edit: also on the high end, there’s at least one Hummer EV driving around here.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago*

    Are you asking if Rivian is the only company besides Tesla selling electric cars in the US?

    No, nearly all major manufacturers sell EVs. Something like 25 brands.

    Edit: although a few of those may still only be selling plug-in hybrids. I know Alfa Romeo is one, for example.

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    [–] 48 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    In Europe Tesla isn't even #1 on EV anymore, they have been surpassed by VAG aka Volkswagen Group.
    Depending on how you compare, they are probably a little bit more expensive, but also higher quality.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    These guys are FAKE NEWS and Need to be DEPORTED for Hurting ELON MUSKS FEELINGS!

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (38 children)

    Another potential Tesla alternative to add to the list: https://www.telotrucks.com/

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Im personally looking forward to Edison EV conversions.

    The ability to take a vehicle I already have and turn it into an EV or hybrid would be amazing.

    I know they’re a while from full production, but I see that as a win. So many of these EVs are having quality issues because they’re being shit out onto the market as fast as humanly possible. I’d rather a company actually take the time to do R&D, test things thoroughly, and then release a product.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Enough with the trucks and SUVs. I'm not buying an EV until I can get a 2 door sports convertible with rack and pinion steering and double wishbone suspension. I don't want to drive a tank of a vehicle with vague, floaty handling. I want a small, light, and nimble EV that's fast as fuck and corners like a dream. For under $30K USD.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    As an European i don't understand at all those open trucks. The back side is completely wasted space, is unusable, stuff will get stolen when you park (or even at the traffic light), or will get soaked in rain. It also lowers aerodynamic efficiency. That one time in my life when i would need to move a fridge or a mattress i could just rent it for 3 hours

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    [–] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Musk already got what he wanted. He bought Trump, and Trump will give Palantir every ounce of government data to analyze, which was likely a sticking point for Palantir to cement them as the only viable product for the US governments future military applications. Once pandoras box is open for classified data its a little bit hard to close it, especially once they gain a dependence on it.

    Palantir then buys his crappy xAI platform that recently bought Twitter.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    after what he has done to californias fast rail system, with the hyperloop scam, he deserves much more. he kept it long enough until trumps admin blocked any funding for it, through ELAINE CHAO.

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    Keep it up Cali! FUCK EM!

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    I refuse to believe that it was over 50%

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's crazy that one manufacturer being below 50% market share is news.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago*

    They had near 100% EV market share just a few years back.

    Losing half the market in 3-4 years is a huge change for any company, even if some of it was inevitable as rivals caught up and suprassed their offerings.

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    At some point prices will get so low that it'll make sense to buy a Tesla and rework the body so no one knows it's a Tesla.

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