"This actually caused some annoyance among law enforcement officials who believed they had suspects' phones stored in a readable state, only to find they were rebooting and becoming harder to access due to this feature."
I love it.
this post was submitted on 19 Apr 2025
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I would not be surprised if google is complicit in this
Yes, this was the whole goal. Apple is also doing this already because of this
Like Apple's devices, Android phones are most secure when they've been freshly rebooted. In this "Before First Unlock" (BFU) state, biometrics and location-based unlocking won't work. The only way to access the device is to use the passcode or PIN. Additionally, all the data stored on the phone is encrypted in the BFU state, making retrieval and snooping much more difficult, even for law enforcement groups that have access to advanced data recovery tools.
Good security feature but only for the phone in your pocket. The old one used as a camera, homeassistant screen, sms to email forwarder, ssh server, will stop being useful.
That's why GrapheneOS had this feature for a long time, but with the ability to disable it. It also allows you to set the time period after which the reboot is initiated yourself. You can go as low as 10 minutes, or as high as 72 hours.
People were using old hardware instead of buying new.
Can't have that.
I hope there will be a way to turn that off, but I'm afraid there won't.
On the 9to5Google article it says
Update 4/16: Google has updated the changelog entry to add that auto-reboot is βoptionalβ when it comes in the βfuture.β This addresses some concern from people who run continuous Android devices, with tablets somewhat fitting into that.
Website: Skynet is dooming the world tomorrow!
Website: Update: You can just tell it not to doom the world if you don't want it. Nothing more to see here. Move on.
Typical.
The old one isn't getting any updates and won't see this change.
The shiny one you have will be old in a few years
You dont install updates on your servers?
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That's good, if I don't unlock my phone for 3 days, either the phone is lost or I'm dead.
If only my phone battery lasts that long. LOL
I like it but, why so long? If I haven't unlocked my phone in 24 hours I'm either dead or hospitalized, 3 days seems super extreme.
Especially since so many phones won't make it 72 hours without a charge, even if sitting unused.
If the screen is off, idk wtd background apps you're running that would drain so much..
Because I want my alarm clock to actually work.
3 days seems like a good "default" but I agree I'd definitely like the option to make it shorter.
3 days in my opinion is too long imo for a default, if the entire point of it is to increase the security, the default gives 3 days worth of time for an entity to obtain a way to access it via some form of exploit or other means. That's far long enough for most shipping options to send the device elsewhere that may have the appropriate tech to do so.
A 24h limit would significantly decrease the margin for exploitation. I agree the setting should have multiple time intervals though, I just think 3 days is way too long for the purpose of the setting. It seems like a "we wanna do something that sounds good, but won't rock the boat for the powers that be"
honestly I reckon 12 hours would be good enough I only really sleep 6-7 hours and I'll check my phone within half hour at most of waking up usually straight away and I need to watch something relaxing before sleeping so it'll have been used just before I slept so I think 12 hours would be fine and on the super rare maybe I'm awake a super long time for reasons and sleep 12 hours ok the consequence is I have to unlock my phone with a pin instead of my finger and do it twice cause sim lock not that big a deal hell I think 10 hours would be too extreme and would trigger a bit even for me but I reckon it wouldn't that often
or maybe, I have replaced it with a newer phone, and repurposed it as some sort of lightweight server or something. So it doesn't get unlocked anymore, ever
If that's the case hopefully there will be a setting to disable the feature as a whole as every 3 days would be annoying for a server,
There is, someone else commented with the actual quote
Settings - Apps - App management - Google Play Services - Disable - Disable App
i think samsungs already do this. as long as i can turn it off if i ever need to.
a charging limit would also be nice.
Pixels can be configured to limit charging to 80% these days.
I've started using it and the difference between using 80% and 100% on a daily basis is negligible, I rarely if ever let my device go below about 35% anyway. So this change is basically free battery life for the device
Samsung have a setting to set the charger to only charge to a certain amount over night
So if you plug it in at 1800 at 0230 or whatever it won't be charging until just it calculates that it will be full charged when you wake up
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