Stem cells were grown and then connected to brass plates.

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[–] 183 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Black Mirror. Should. Not. Be. A. Roadmap.

Cunk on Earth also did a similar bit with Beethoven.

Does Charlie Brooker have some kind of enchanted typewriter that can influence the world or something?

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  • [–] 150 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    That's a pretty misleading headline. The news article is about a cool art installation, in which an artist has used a deceased composer's DNA to produce electrical signals that are interpreted as music. Still cool, but it's not "composing music" in the same sense as the alive musician was composing music.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    It's about as close to composing as transcribing the twitches of someone with Parkinson's.

    About as respectful as well, if the researcher is the person characterising this process as composing.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    It seems to be the journalist presenting it as such, but in any case, I don't think the artists are suggesting it's equivalent to what the guy made when he was alive. It's an interesting artwork riffing off of the fact that the person whom the DNA belonged to was a musician. That also seems like a pretty disrespectful way to talk about people with Parkinson's.

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  • [–] 78 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    I hope to all holy fuck it’s not conscious.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    It's a few cerebral cells across a mesh-- I think achieving consciousness needs a bit more than that

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I think achieving consciousness needs a bit more than that

    Good thing nobody knows for sure!

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago*

    Don't worry too much, it's not even part of his actual brain. It's a bunch of random brain cells grown from a DNA sample.

    If we could make new conscious lifeforms from this, Blade Runner would be a documentary already.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    according to the article it's a tiny smattering of brain cells grown from stem cells derived from his blood, which he donated before he died specifically for this experiment. it is in no way conscious.

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    [–] 75 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Some brain cells cobbled together from stem cells that have his DNA. None of the life experiences that made his music. You could likely get similar results with the same technique using the DNA of any random person on the street.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    They grew a brain organoid from his donated blood white cells that they turned into stem cells. The brain organoid produces electric impulses because that's what brain cells do. They made something artsy out of those impulses. So it's completely unrelated to whatever experience the musician could have had. DNA doesn't store acquired skills nor life memories. They could do that with anyone's cells and probably get a similar result.

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  • [–] 59 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Quite the exaggerated headline from the look of it.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    More like 'decomposing', amirite, guys?

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The hard truth is that there are a lot of completely un-empathetic scientists out there.

    Some of the shit I saw them doing to animals when I worked for Baxter still makes me sick when I think about it. And I only had to go into that lab a couple times.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It's just a few cells they created on a mesh, it's not like they're using a hunk of his brain.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah and it was just a bunch of sedated live rats pinned to little trays with their brains exposed and a bunch of shit stuck everywhere into their bodies that I had to see while working on the lab computers.

    I'm not going to get into an argument about whether there's value in animal research (I think there is) but there's some horrifying shit that comes with it, and I'm just pointing out that I've directly worked with plenty of scientists that are completely unfazed by that shit. So while it may be a few cells on a mesh now, they won't stop at that.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    it is important to note that the article says that Alvin eagrly agreed to this experiment, and donated the blood for it. If that is true, then I don't see any ethical dillemma in here

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    That is an important point that I missed in what I read of the article before I got grossed out. Thanks. I'm still not sure about this line of research because if (when?) they do make something that achieves a level of sentience, consciousness, or even just the ability to feel, will it be able to signal to us that it is happy, content, in agony, mental anguish, etc? The thought of being trapped in that situation is terrifying.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Shhhh! Don't interrupt him, he's decomposing.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    This sounds like chatGPT with extra steps and body horror.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    I genuinely thought this was an Onion headline.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    My Ashley O. doll is starting to glitch out a little. Should I be worried?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago*

    Storm of lying clickbait titles today.

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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I notice they didn’t say it was any good.

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    [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Has anyone seen the show “Pantheon“? This is getting close to it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    One day we will have the means to reverse every death

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