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China has shrugged off the latest U.S. tariff hike, dismissing the Trump administration's threats as a "meaningless tariff numbers game."

Donald Trump's move to impose tariffs "wiped trillions of dollars off Wall Street" and raised duties on foreign goods, claiming to bring back U.S. manufacturing jobs.

A White House fact sheet announced tariffs on some Chinese imports would rise to 245%.

China’s Commerce Ministry said the move "fully exposes the fact that the United States has become irrational" and vowed to see the trade war "through to the very end."

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 week ago (8 children)

...how anyone in the US sees this as positive is beyond my ability for faith and reason...

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That elected a 34 times convicted felon. I'm not sure why anyone is surprised anymore.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

...they shouldn't be, this has been plotted and planned and WRITTEN down in project 2025...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What makes you think that they do? I imagine the biggest beneficiaries of this whole thing is a somewhat longer runway until Russian and Chinese demographic collapse.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Just the other day I saw a quick street interview on TV. In it, there was a barbershop owner who is also a Trump supporter, and she said that America will endure these difficulties. I got some serious sunk cost fallacy vibes from that interview.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Because when the masses are robbed of a stable living and basic dignity, and when faith in institutions collapse in a society that puts everything on faith in institutions, coupled with an education system that isn't built for intelligence and critical thinking but instead for indoctrination and farming obedient workers, people become desperate for "something else" or "anything else." Because it's inhuman and unnatural for homosapiens to live under those conditions, and it's a desperate situation because these people are desperate, and the people at large have lost a sense of higher purpose (be it God or Country, I personally think we need to return our worship and devotion to Mother Nature.)

I too have challenged faith and reason given the current state of affairs, but I have faith in Mother Nature to return balance to the relations we've disturbed, and cut arrogant humans, who think they're somehow above or seperate from nature, down to size. Like a deer or insect or algae that dominate a given area and upsets the balance, Mother Nature demands balance and harmony between relations and suffering is caused when those relations are disturbed. What gives me faith is the knowledge that all these politicians and their big fancy buildings could magically vanish today, and would go unnoticed as society keeps plodding along - as it's us who grow and distribute the food, it's us who drive the trucks and move the goods, it's us who live on our land, it's us who strive for and gift a sense of belonging to one another, it's us who repairs things when they're broken and it's us who rebuild when things get destroyed. We are only intelligent or special creatures in that we exist to maintain Natures relations, and like every other creature we exist to survive. We don't want to assume coersive power or overthrow our government, we want coersive power to be destroyed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Domestic manufacturers will see a slight bump. Hopefully their raw materials aren't so heavy affected though...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

...they won't be, this was all planned, please read project 2025

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Project 2025 does seem to be the exact program they are following for most things. One of the next steps is to deploy the military for law enforcement inside the USA. This may happen in a few days' time if the rumours of Trump planning to declare martial law on April 20th are true.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Because hurting the 1% is the only way this guy is going to be brought back to being an ineffective dictator. If the rich suffer, he will suffer.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

China can live without us. We can't live without them. Go into a Chinese house and remove all the items made in the USA. Now try that in an American house and tell me what's left.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

They know he’s full of shit and even if he foolishly proceeds he will destroy the Republican Party’s electoral prospects for decades, lol. The only question is whether they do a military coup to retain power.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trade Wars Are Good And Easy To Win

~ Sun Tzu, War of the Art of the Deal

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

They're not good, but they are easy to win...if you have all the manufacturing facilities and are okay with plunging your country into depression for the sake of absolutely no benefit whatsoever.

Wait, what's the definition of "win" again?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is functionally no difference between a 145% and a 245% tariff.

The cost of going through a black market rather than a clear or grey one is likely already below 145% and the grey one is likely to fill most gaps in the long run anyways.

Grey market tariff skirting might be Canadian or UK companies slapping their logos and "made in X" marker after making a tiny change to the product. The barrier to entry on this is quite low as is the risk. If your profit is capped at 145% you still have a lot of room to make money.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So now we see whether Trump gives in or makes up bigger and bigger numbers. "900%! 1,776%! A BILLION PERCENT!"

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you raise the tariffs to a billion percent then the US will get a billion dollars revenue for every $100 TV that comes from China! There will be so many millions of billions!!!!!! Why wasn't anyone smart enough to do this before?!?!?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

....please read project 2025, this has all been pre-planned and ready to be executed...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

AFAIKk project 2025 ~~calls~~ doesn't call for tariffs; that's a Trump original.

Edit: brainfarted.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

there should be NO shock here

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

within projecct 2025 is the alientation of all foreign trade due to "internal security"...should i quit now?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

These cultists are trying to ride the 80 year old wave created by the atom bomb.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

China manufactures most of the products from US companies. As we also see now, Chinese companies promote the idea of buying from the manufacturer directly instead of the middle man like "Why buying the Nike shoes for 80$ if you can get them from us for 5$."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Because ♾️% > 245%

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just realized, since "computers" are exempt, we're gonna see a lot more products with screens in it for no reason.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Unless things have changed in the last couple days, they announced Sunday that they were removing the exemption on computers and electronic devices that was announced last Friday.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

oh I didn't know that, thanks for the update!

so glad to see they thought through their amazing plan before affecting people's already difficult lives 😃

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Shart of the meal 💩

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

facetiously:are people this stupid?

reality:yep

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