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Jack Dorsey, co-founder of Twitter (now X) and Square (now Block), sparked a weekend’s worth of debate around intellectual property, patents, and copyright, with a characteristically terse post declaring, “delete all IP law.”

X’s current owner Elon Musk quickly replied, “I agree.”

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (11 children)

That's probably better than what we have now, but still very short of ideal. Here's my proposition:

  • keep trademark law as-is
  • cut patents to 5-7 years, with a one-time extension if the holder can demonstrate need
  • cut copyright to 14 years (original 1790 Copyright Act duration), with a one-time explicit extension, approved based on need
  • have existing patents and copyright expire at their original term, the above (for works patented/copyrighted within the term), or half the above (for works copyrighted outside the term), whichever is shorter

That would solve most of the problems while keeping the vast majority of the benefits.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Also, patents shouldn’t be filable once prior art exists.

Aka Nintendo patenting game mechanics 30 years after the fact to try and sue Palworld.

Also game mechanics and UI features being tied to existing functionality (Amazon’s “one click”, Apple’s “swipe to unlock”) should not be considered novel.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Now that it interferes with me I'm against it. As soon as it's absence causes me any grief I'll be for it again.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Be Weird, Download a Car, Generate Art, Screw Copyrights!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is the only thing he's ever done or said that I agree with, even though his real intentions are obvious. We really do need a complete re-writing of IP law, but not from Elon.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i came in to say the same thing. IP law rarely benefits the working class. it's usually a tool used by the likes of disney to bash peasants over the head. it also slows down innovation.

but the problem is, something like this is supposed to coincide with the end of capitalism and implementation of things like UBI.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A rare Musk win. Broken clock, I suppose

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Scratch beneath the surface and you’ll find unscrupulous greed here as well.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

That would be a-m-a-z-i-n-g. Private game servers, fan remakes of shows and movies, I would be over the moon.

Too bad it won't happen

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Hold on hold on. Don't mention a damn thing

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't Hollywood going to unleash armies of lawyers on them?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

These people are threats to our actual lives.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Avoiding tax loopholes and fair taxation for billionnaires could also be considered. Just saying. Otherwise I think that the idea of deleting all IP laws is just wishful (and naive) thinking, assuming people would cooperate and build on each other’s inventions/creations.

Given the state the world is currently in, I don’t see that happening soon.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Disney vs the tech brats. Jumbish, bring me the popcorn

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Well a billionaire commanded we argue about copyright law. I guess we need to expend our energy and build enough momentum so that Musk can grab more power during the turmoil.

Trumpers did their part by arguing about free speech. Time to tap into our issues with IP laws and help Musk too!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Hard yes. Glad to see there's at least one thing we are aligned on.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Yeah bullshit they want to delete IP law. Go ahead and copy Square, Xhitter, Tesla, SpaceX, etc and watch them explode.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If they did could we use the Twitter bird or Tesla logo all we wanted? I mean yeah let's get rid of all IP law but get rid of it for everyone. If we want to copy a big corporation then yeah we should do that. Get rid of copyright and trademarks, woo! Publish all that hidden patented material so anyone can produce it. Let's get creative. You think big corps will get on board with all this?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Interesting considering the lack of IP law is going to become Tesla's downfall.

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