Honestly, it's a information goldmine. You'll get answers to most obscure questions and in detail. All others sources on the internet are either fluff or endorsements. It it also inconvenient to have to visit two websites that does same thing. So people don't want to abandon what they are habituated to.
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We are losing a lot, this new ActivityPup fediverse is exciting but it is like going back a decade for long-term reddit users.
Reddit obviously sucks now and has been like this for years, IMO it was newReddit and its focus on Facebook users that was the biggest event declining quality. What we had slowly eroded and its no longer there, but there were still enough smaller active communities that it could still be a good experience.
We are rebuilding and it is fun and exciting, but we are losing a big part of our lives in the process, we wont have something equal to what we lost for a couple years to come.
Reddit is profiting a lot from the network effect. By now this reddit is a known brand, has a lot of content is already there, has a lot of people (especially non-technical users) are already on reddit, and they're there to stay.
All the other reddit alternatives, including lemmy and/or the fediverse suffers from:
- Bugs (I love lemmy, but gosh, have you seen how buggy and sometimes unresponsive it is?)
- The complexity of "servers" (don't get me wrong, federation is the way to go IMHO, but it is confusing to non-technical users)
- Lack of content
- Lack of users
Everybody is talking about the Digg exodus, but nobody is saying that it didn't happen in a day, it took ~1 to 2 years.
Some people like my bf just browse for a little bit of their communities and don‘t care about anything else.
However, if we make this place interesting enough they will come naturally, those sorts of people are like moths who are attracted to interesting content.
I had hope until the infamous AMA posted by spez, and him doubling down on accusing people of blackmail. I've purged my account history immediately after that.
Most of the subreddits I used to frequent (particularly/r/manga) haven't made the move to anywhere, nor they blacked out in protest. While I see some parallels here, there's still very few active users. I would love to be able to post more content myself, but I objectively do not have enough time in my hands.
I follow some pretty niche topics, and have had to make an executive decision regarding indifferent behavior from those who moderate discussions in those areas: Talking about a specific crypto, or a style of painting takes a backseat to my politics.
This was the final straw for me, and I feel that a collective lack of participation is the only recourse to assist those who are indifferent in generating an opinion.
Not only that, but I extracted (and continuously delete when they reappear) my contributions to those discussions, reposting them elsewhere.
Because Reddit has been our online home for years. It's where our communities are, where are online friends are, it's become home. People have spent thousands of hours building communities there, as a labor of love.
Unfortunately I agree with you- the home is on fucking fire and unless a monsoon spontaneously erupts we should get the hell out before it burns to the ground.
They are just following the reactionary social media norms these days. The lack of proper passing of information and just humoured by the subreddit protests such as in r/pics. Some people are not actually on Reddit for information.
Don’t underestimate how much resistance to change stops people from looking beyond the status quo. Moving away from Reddit is a clear example. I suspect a lot of lurkers from Reddit are actually from the category of Late Majority or Laggards
https://www.betterup.com/blog/resistance-to-change
https://www.liveabout.com/what-is-resistance-to-change-1918240
https://ondigitalmarketing.com/learn/odm/foundations/5-customer-segments-technology-adoption/
I can only repeat what I just commented somewhere else:
I built Swift apps and Mastodon or Discord are NOT a proper format to get help, Discord being crappy for archiving, too.
I have a hard time getting help by people that really know this stuff because Swift is made by Apple, and the Apple bubble tends to stick to Twitter and the likes. If enough migrate, I can finally say frick off, Reddit
Because there is not yet a full alternative to reddit.
Personally, I just feel bad for Apollo's creator and mods (the good ones) who spent so much time carefully taking care of a community they love, so in a sense I wish Reddit would come to their senses and axe that fucker CEO and revert to reasonable API changes. But it's mostly wishful thinking. Besides, now I would feel bad if Reddit managed to go back to being good because that would mean that this aswesome Lemmy thinghy would go back into the shadows, while it deserves so much attention imho.
It's been my community since like 2007. It's hard to move on from all of those conversations and inside jokes because suddenly the landlord says he gets to be a part of our conversations because he owns the property despite never participating in anything besides maybe suggesting a few holiday events that the community had to make happen and execute on their own. It has nothing to do with the site. It has to do with what we created there, a lot like the street corner that used to be a thing. It's been made clear we're no longer welcome there and we'll find a new corner to hang out on. And as soon as it's user friendly enough the masses will follow. That's a mixed blessing because the same tired replies and memes will follow but the content will be there.
I'm a little drunk right now so I'm being overly sentimental, but the point remains. We miss the experiences we had, and fuck that greedy, spineless motherfucker for making us go elsewhere. But we'll do it and laugh about it the same way we used to about Digg. "Fuck Kevin Rose" was a thing the same way "Fuck u/spez" is.
Actually when you realize he did contribute it's worse than if he didn't. u/spez used to be a moderator. On r/jailbait. You can guess what that was for yourself
I get a "sunk-cost fallacy" feel from it. Like Bill Hicks' bit went- This HAS to be real. Look at my furrows of worry- look at all this Karma. This has to be real!"
.. it's just a ride.
I get the reddit c suite just wants to go public and finally get their payout, which is understandable but if they're out then we're out too. There's better platforms now anyway that need a reason to be used and developed. They could have so easily handled this differently by just making the reddit app experience better than any third party apps today. But here we are and honestly I wouldn't bet my retirement that teenagers will still be posting to reddit in 40 years.
Because Reddit is familiar and people like to stick with what they're used to and comfortable with.
People like being comfortable, new places can be uncomfortable.
It's this simple. So just let them have their porn-filled garbage can of a place.
Reddit is now in the ilk of MySpace and facebook.. Corpo-wasteland devoid of anything but ad revenue and cheers from shareholders.
They can keep it.
The only thing I can say is, I don’t.
The average redditor couldn't care less about what is going on.
I've being feeling that lately reddit had become full of repost bots and fake ads. Was there just because there was nowhere else to go
I feel a similar way. The quality just kept going down and down to the point where I couldn't tell what was real or not. Most just weren't worth reading either way. Lemmy seems the same way now too. People are focusing on making "content" instead of trying to make higher quality posts.
Look at the twitter. Whatever they can do people stay there. Maybe the hardcore users or geeks will leave, but the crowd will stay.
The silver lining is that hopefully we can get a few people off Reddit and onto here and eventually grow these spaces. I do miss the thousands of upvotes and comments though, but that'll come in time
I also still have hope for Twitter (less tho). Both concepts are good, they're just run by fucking idiots making them unusable.
Other than that there are fewer people on it, what makes Mastodon less appealing? (I never really got into twitter so I'm not sure what the draw was there either). Curious to hear your thoughts as to why there still is hope for twitter?
Honestly: for my social media consumption Reddit works pretty well. I always used to webinterface so for nothing really changed.
I am here because I felt like changing things up more than anything. Well: the fediverse is a super interesting idea and looking at something fresh is always fun.
Still; it seems pretty likely that this place will be a good deal smaller than Reddit for the foreseeable future and that’s both a strength and a weakness.
The main strength of Reddit is it’s nichier subs. There is one for just about anything. You need a massive volume of users to do such a thing and I don’t think Lemmy will reach that size anytime soon.
I expect Lemmy to be a place where people value Openness and Freedom. Generally there are less people that care about Freedom AND Pu’er tea than there are people who care about just Pu’er tea.
I wonder what will happen to Lemmy in a couple of years🤔
Because no matter how bad it gets, like all successful social platforms, it will stay successful. People will continue to use it no matter how much they complain or criticize it. I regularly complain about Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, etc. But I still use all of them. It doesn't matter how unsatisfied people are with how things are being handled, if most people still see a reason to use it, they will until it's gone.
I just hope there's no power trippin edgelords - toxic sweaty mods here. And whoever is in charge(like a CEO) I hope is also a normal human being. All I ask from you is to work with the community not against it.
Whoever is in charge (like a CEO)
That's the fun of the Fediverse; there isn't a CEO. You're in charge if you want to be. Go setup your own instance if you find you don't like the one you're on, or find one whose admins you like. Don't like Lemmy? Go write your own activitypub software to do the same stuff!
I don't care about what happens to Reddit, but hopefully at least some of the content gets saved. It was already annoying when I was trying to find some answers to a tech support question and the subs that had answers were private.