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The mastodon and lemmy content I’m seeing feels like 90% of it comes from people who are:

  • ~30 years old or older

  • tech enthusiasts/workers

  • linux users

There’s nothing wrong with that particular demographic or anything, but it doesn’t feel like a win to me if the entire fediverse is just one big monoculture.

I wonder what it is that is keeping more diverse users away? Is picking a server/federation too complicated? Or is it that they don’t see any content that they like?

Thoughts?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

According to this poll, fediverse definitely skews older. There's some sample bias for whoever is in this guy's circles, but I think it's relatively valid.

https://mastodon.art/@jsstaedtler/110668308409683502

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Check. Check. And check.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don't fit that demographic whatsoever, but I am a tech nerd and a Linux user.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I feel personally attacked...!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

30 years old or older
I'm 23

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes. Like you said, it's not a bad thing, but I do miss the energy younger people bring.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey! I use Windows. And because I choose to. And I really dislike any unix-like systems to put it mildly.

The rest fits.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Completely agree, and I fit all three on the list. While a lot of new users have come in recently, the fediverse isn't as mainstream as the centralized services that everyone knows about. Also, young people will sign up for services they're friends are on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did you just call me old? 🥺

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

● under 30

● i mean im getting there in terms of tech interests

● Yeah ok i use linux

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Almost got me!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Currently interning as software engineer and typing this from a Linux machine. I'm Gen Z though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

23 y.o. Indian medicine student(somewhat reluctant). Tech enthusiast(😮‍💨). I hate the official reddit app.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Is picking a server/federation too complicated?

Yes, but because 90% of the fediverse is older tech nerds, good luck getting them to acknowledge it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Funny observation, but admittedly I fit 100%

I've seen people post about "understanding" Lemmy and the fediverse, and "figurring out" how it works, although it seems pretty straightforward. If this is a barrier for some people, preventing them from joining, I think that might be a benefit.

I've seen statistics saying the dominant age group on reddit is around 13 years. I don't mind teenagers participating, that's good. But they shouldn't dominate, if they do it becomes to much like a "follow me, I'm blind too." community.

It seems to me the debates here are better than on reddit. I hope we don't lose that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

dominant age group on reddit is around 13 years

That might very well be true, but it doesn't match my personal experience at all.

If this is a barrier for some people, preventing them from joining, I think that might be a benefit

Let's not pretend we're somehow better people just because we figured out how Fediverse and Lemmy works.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well heck, that looks like me. I was thinking about running back to Fidonet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

as a young IT with friends who dont know much about IT i have to say that most around 20 use reddit, instagram, ... cause its the only thing they know. everyone they know uses them and many of them want likes, ...

if they would join the fediverse:

  1. they wouldnt understand how it works. what is a server? why choose an instance? its just too complicated
  2. all their friends dont use the fediverse. they would be alone and have nobody who they can share things to
  3. they would mostly see tech stuff and less in categories they are interested in
  4. none of the people they follow on instagram are here. the cant follow their celebrities, ... and see their content
  5. the fediverse still has to less users to be successful worldwide. its growing. and just like facebook in its first years, its growing slow.

=> give it a few more years and get your friends, family & collegues on here and see the fediverse grow

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
  • In 10 years
  • Check
  • Check
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
  1. fail
  2. pass
  3. pass
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Joke's on you, I use Linux.

You're probably describing Nostr's userbase, not Lemmy :P

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There's always a group on the forefront, it makes sense that it's tech interested people Fediverse being based on open source software and all about sharing means it's right p Linux user's alley.

The 30+ demographic not sure, maybe just people a bit grown up and now under as much peer pressure to be on the more popular corporate platforms.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No. Not really. But I’m sure it did a month ago.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Quite fine by me, to be honest. I was tired of all the pokemon memes and references, as well as gamespeak everywhere (like "10+ XP, hurr hurr!")

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I gall into most of those categories.

That said, I still have a hard time dropping reddit until a network effect happens here or the multi-feddit stuff can start combining same-named subs across the fediverse.

I spent most of my time on Reddit looking at: various sports,cooking, finance (pf, investing, bogleheads), IT (sysadmin, vmware, homelab), gaming (console and PC and specific game subs), and PC hardware subs. (Plus some for sale places).

I wasn't really one to do much OC, but would participate in comment threads fairly often. I think lemmy/fed has potential, but it's going to need to be simpler for the average person to get logged in and just see the content they want with out jumping through a bunch of searches and hoops.

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