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[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Those of us who pay attention know.

However, the media ecosystem is INCREDIBLY conservative and pumps out the rah-rah jingoism whenever it can. Those of who just stick to the mainstream echochambers think the US is a bastion of freedom and peace.

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Everyone I know is nihilistic and numb. We know.

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

It's been a rogue state for decades, they call it 'American Exceptionalism', and the 'patriotic Americans' are happy about it.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

For some reason the administration and conservatives want to be a rogue state, they enjoy it. Rest of the country is either politically oblivious or helplessly defiant.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

the smart ones are. the cultists are wrapping themselves in ~~nationalism~~ patriotism. the rest are just terminally unaware and don't vote.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Those of us who pay attention are very aware. The usual suspects remain ignorant to their reality, as usual.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Between the media surpression and the fact a lot of people don't follow the news, or give a shit, i'd say no.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We understand that fully 1/3 of our population are absolutely bonkers. It's like being in a boat at sea and 1/3 of the passengers are drilling holes in the bottom of the boat. What the rest of the world should know is that no matter how fucked it seems at the moment, it is going to get worse. We are on the precipice of a climate catastrophe. The AMOC is going to grind to a halt, Europe is going to go into a deep freeze, weather patterns globally are going to fall apart and become chaotic. The real problems are in the distance, so you should prepare yourselves.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

American Exceptionalism, Baby!

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

it fucking poison. i moved to the us from abroad as a kid and spent my adolescence there. moving back to my home country, i quickly realized that i needed to give myself a serious attitude adjustment.

i don't think many people from outside the us realize just how pervasive fox news is in america. it's playing on every television in every bar and every airport and just about everywhere else that has a television. it's non-stop negativity, non-stop arrogance, non-stop disinformation, non-stop convincing people that patriotism is fervent fealty. it's gotten a bit stale lately to talk about fox, but holy crap their role can't be overstated in the way things have become.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We’re aware. People who get all their news from Fox or ignore politics in general probably aren’t but even my conservative family members are embarrassed about the threats to Canada and Greenland. Canadians are generally considered super nice and polite by Americans so pissing them off crossed a line. Even apolitical people probably know the U.S. National Anthem is being booed at sporting events.

There’s elections in several states today that will provide some data to know more. Louisiana had an election on Saturday and rejected 4 constitutional amendments supported by Republicans. None even got 40%. Louisiana is an oddball state so I’m not sure it’s a harbinger of today’s elections but if voters in Wisconsin and elsewhere vote like Louisiana, it’ll be very telling.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Many Americans are unaware of the problems due to media censorship.

However they're creating so many problems that even those with blinders on are seeing this shit.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

The people cheering it on think it's patriotism. Then there still seems to be maybe a third of us who think this was just another election we had in 2024.

The rest of us know, and are appropriately freaked the fuck out.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

We been a rogue state for 100 years

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

I think in NY we are aware and the state is trying brace for the worse, and I see/hear people starting gardens, getting chickens, and basically have "bug out bags" incase things go sideways.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

People know at various levels. You are seeing maga types even recognizing this stuff aint so great for them and repbulicans who go with it to be winning to realize it might not have been a smart move. Then like most of the democratic congress feel they need to make moves with the next election. Then there are the ones with their eyes open who realize he is now clearing house and putting in as many as possible who will heil on command at as high a levels as possible and make sure all the rest are cowed by removing any security their position might have had. We see he is already floating ideas to make new election restrictions and extend his term and has no problem breaking laws and constitutions and court orders and such.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

I own guns now. I never did or even considered it until the election results in November.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

A superpower by definition cannot really be a rogue state. A "rogue state" is a political label applied by dominant powers to states that defy the international order. For example Iran or North Korea are considered rogue states because they defy the international order. What is "the international order"?

Well, it's the combination post-WW2 institutions created by none other than the US. The UN, IMF, NATO, etc. They set the norms of "legitimate" behavior. When the US participates in military interventions, economic sanctions, and other aggressive actions it's framed as upholding "rules-based order" whereas identical actions by weaker states get them condemned with the label as "rogue states".

To call the US a rogue state is to misunderstand power. Hegemony is the ability to define reality, not just defy it. In this way, the US has always been a rogue state in the sense that it does whatever it wants regardless of the international norms. I mean, just look at the mid 1900s and its actions in Latin America. It was involved in about a dozen states toppling governments and supporting military dictatorships- including sponsoring the genocide of natives in Guatemala.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

uhhh always has been?? google github us atrocities

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Some of us are. No idea how many. We are separated into news bubbles.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We have a 24 hr billionaire backed propaganda news channel that for some weird reason Americans watch the most. The other main stream news is propaganda light. The few truthful news organizations are nowhere near as well funded and they’re being targeted and silenced by trump and musk. All of our major social media platforms have turned far right facist and we have tons of billionaire backed podcasts devoted to radicalizing young men. I think it’s too late for us but the question is will the facist billionaire cancer spread to Canada and Europe. Those of us who are hyper aware of what is going on are deeply worried but also want to get our loved ones through this alive.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Leftists, of course. Liberals will continue to be in denial for the foreseeable future. Conservatives just dgaf.

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