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[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

The shire was founded under the rule of the king of arnor, as a semi independent shire. So aragorn was technically king of the shire.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

lol, the secret lives of Hobbitses. GOLLUM WAS RIGHT

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Every time I see this meme, I'm reminded of this, which basically argues that the shire is just a specific type of feudal system, that looks like a place of rulerless plenty because the main characters are mostly that systems informal equivalent of nobility.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Full disclosure: I have not read your link yet, but I intend to.

How can a gardener be nobility? Frodo, definitely could see. But then there are the Tooks and Brandybucks going out and stealing produce and foraging for mushrooms? Not exactly nobility activities.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

But then there are the Tooks and Brandybucks going out and stealing produce and foraging for mushrooms? Not exactly nobility activities.

Another way of looking at it is that they don't have to work and is using their past time doing crime just for kicks. That kind of dickishness sounds very much like that of the spawn of nobles.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

And to add to this, yea Sam is the only one in the Fellowship who isn't a Maia, heir to the king/steward, heir in a noble family or just rich enough not to have to work, and actually has a normal job.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

And he has to carry the guy who's supposedly doing all the work

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The line of stewards were kings in all but name as a hereditary monarchical position with all the duties and authority of the king. They theoretically had to give up power if a member of the royal family ever came back to claim the throne, but Aragorn wasn't exactly chomping at the bit to do so and only took over after Denethor killed himself with his two heirs being either dead or too injured to lead. The stewards had ruled Gondor for over a thousand years and a well liked one could have easily gotten the people behind them to reject Aragorn's claim and formally taken the title of king.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

The people rejecting a rightful claim to the throne is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a pure bloodline and a big sword, not from some farcical democratic ceremony.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Only if the big sword was hurled by a watery tart

[-] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Look Tolkein liked monarchy, what can you do about it. The Shire is still an anarchist commune, when it's not on fire

[-] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago
[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

dont be! Tolkien was an anarcho-monarchist. Something like monarcho-socialism but more radical, with highly symbolic but powerless monarchs and lots of good ritual, combined with anarcho-federalism and Mutualism

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