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If you are keen on personal privacy, you might have come across Brave Browser. Brave is a Chromium-based browser that promises to deliver privacy with built-in ad-blocking and content-blocking protection. It also offers several quality-of-life features and services, like a VPN and Tor access. I mean, it's even listed on the reputable PrivacyTools website. Why am I telling you to steer clear of this browser, then?

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Thank goodness that we can post things in here without Braves astroturfed PR community galavanting to save face like what happened when any story against brave posted on the other site

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 days ago (11 children)

anyone believing brave is good for privacy is quite naive

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago

It's good for privacy from the websites you visit, from itself is up for debate though lol

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 days ago (3 children)

the crypto and the asshole ceo aside, nobody should trust a browser that claims to respect privacy that's based on chromium.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (7 children)

What's wrong with ungoogled-chromium? Or Vivaldi?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Vivaldi sends an unstoppable user counter signal to their main server, promised to change the system and now they're ignoring any requests for updates on the issue.

That rustles my Jimmies, dings my bell and waves my red flags.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (6 children)

ultimately they're still chromium and they still contribute to chrome's dominance.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Okay, but that's not a privacy reason.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

It is still a privacy reason. You are still contributing to googles plans to dominate and control the internet by using a chromium product its a privacy threat, and an everything else threat too.

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[–] [email protected] 455 points 4 days ago (98 children)

tldr:

  • CEO was forcefully ousted from Firefox for anti-LGBTQ views and donations.
  • Replaced existing ads on sites with Brave's own "private" ads.
  • Collected crypto on behalf of others without their knowledge or consent
  • Injected referral links into crypto websites to steal crypto revenue
  • Put ads in the new page tab
  • Shipped a TOR feature that leaked DNS
  • Doesn't disclose the ID of their search engine crawler via useragent
  • Removed "strict" fingerprinting protection
  • CEO is generally a right-wing dick.
[–] [email protected] 115 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Librewolf users (totally not biased)

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Please tell me you have the whole set. I have waited for someone to post this since literally 2018

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago

You should also add secretly whitelisted Facebook trackers in their adblocker, something they did a while back.

  • Shipped a TOR feature that leaked DNS

Yikes I didn't know they did that but I'm not surprised. There's a reason the people behind Tor say it should only be used via the official Tor browser, because only the Tor browser can provide that level of protection against those kind s of leaks, as well as much better fingerprinting resistance than chromium-based brave is going to give you.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Thanks for the TLDR. Enough said, deleted Brave app. Firefox Focus is a good alternate.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 days ago

Don't forget about the fact that a while back they secretly whitelisted Facebook trackers in their adblocker to "make pages run more smoothly" they got a lot of shit for it when people found out looking through the source code. When I heard that they did that it basically cemented in my mind that they were shady and untrustworthy, that's in addition to the Crypto and rewards stuff.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Brave has great anti-fingerprinting measures I just wish I could get that without installing crypto malware on my pc

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Use Firefox with the Chameleon addon, works on Fennec as well (Android fork with Mozilla telemetry removed).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You only need uBlock basically, beware of other extensions. They're mostly snake oil and Firefox has anti-fingerprinting features per default.

https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/wiki/4.1-Extensions

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Brave search allows misinformation goggles for anyone that believes 2 + 2 = 5.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Of course Brave would so something like this. This isn't surprising whatsoever. It's still horrible they're even choosing to enable this whatsoever.

Edit: I just checked what kind of shit they pull up on Transgender issues when using those goggles. It's as bad as I thought it would be. Fuck Brave for enabling this garbage.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Am I misunderstanding something? That's what I would expect to see from any search engine when you search for "vaccines" and "news from the right".

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

I mean Daily Mail should set off an alarm for any sentient being.

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[–] [email protected] 185 points 4 days ago (16 children)

The CEO of brave is a homophobic bigot if that helps push anyone over the edge for changing their browser. It was the last straw for me.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 days ago

This post shows that it’s much worse than that.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Also don't use Opera. They're opera-ted by chinese mafia.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (13 children)

This is a very well written an thorough article and I highly recommend reading it. If you don't want to however, here is a summary of the key points:

  • Brendan Eich's anti-LGBTQ+ political involvement

    • Brendan Eich donated to anti-LGBT political organizations, politicians, and initiatives such as CA Prop 8 which banned same-sex marriages.
  • 2016 — Brave Browser promises to replace webpage ads

    • Brave promised to replace ads with privacy friendly ads that would actually pay publishers and even users with a volatile cryptocurrency while keeping a cut for themselves. This never actually came to life and was criticized as "blatantly illegal".
  • 2018 — Brave runs a questionable donation campaign

    • Brave collected donations for popular content creators without actually involving or seeking consent from said creators. In short they accepted donations in crypto for creators, but would only pay out if it reached a minimum value of $100. When called out, Brave said refunds were impossible.
  • 2020 — Brave injects referral links when visiting crypto wallets

    • Brave injected their own referral links for services such as Binance without informing users or asking permission.
  • 2020 — Brave puts ads in user's home screens

    • Brave turned their home screen image rotator into a place to serve ads, many of which were suspicious or crypto related.
  • 2021 - Brave ships an insecure Tor feature

    • Brave added a Tor feature which exposed users DNS requests
  • 2023 - Brave hides their crawlers to websites

    • Brave refuses to disclose their crawler bot to websites since many websites want to block Brave Search. Brave will only chose not to crawl a website if it also blocks Google's crawler.
  • 2024 - So-called "privacy browser" deprecated advanced fingerprinting protection

    • Brave removed a the Strict, Block Fingerprinting privacy feature from their browser.
  • And More!

    • Brave paid for targeted ads for users searching for Firefox in the Play Store and ran a campaign to "Forget the Fox". When called out on this the VP publicly denied it and claimed it was photo-shopped.
    • The VP of Brave, Luke Mulks, frequently posts about all things crypto, from NFTs to FTX, and uses AI-gen images to promote them. He also frequently re-tweets right-wing activists.
    • Brendan Eich's feed also frequently contains right-wing content and Republican propaganda despite his claims to be "independent".

Edit: corrected a mistake noted below.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 days ago

privacytools is not longer reputable. privacy guides started from it a few years ago for a reason.

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