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It has been a proven fact that vegan diet has very negative impact on children development and their intellectual skills and mental health.

There are number of examples where it led children to near death or nearly death - see examples below. Imposing vegan diet on children is an abuse, so should the state react faster rather than after the harm is done?

"The girl, now three, was so malnourished she looked like a three-month-old at 19 months. (...) The child was found with no teeth"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-4943085

"A vegan woman from Florida was sentenced to life in prison (...) following the death of her 18-month-old son from malnutrition. (...) He weighed only 17 pounds, making him about the size of a seven-month-old baby.The Cape Coral Police Department claimed all three children were found extremely malnourished.”

https://globalnews.ca/news/9097911/vegan-mom-sheila-oleary-life-in-prison-son-malnutrition-death/

"A couple have been jailed for causing or allowing the death of their three-year-old son after forcing him to endure an "extreme" vegan diet."

https://news.sky.com/story/parents-who-forced-extreme-vegan-diet-on-toddler-and-buried-his-body-in-garden-jailed-13271946

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's an unfortunate truth that vegan children are simply too powerful for their parents to handle. The vegan diet gives kids unparalleled strength and telekinetic powers. As such they need to be raised in the Jedi temple on coruscant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I am pretty sure that three abused children from the articles quoted, including the dead, would appreciate your sense of humour.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 19 hours ago

Eating only raw fruits and veggies isn't vegan, it's dumb.
There's a lot of info out there on how to eat a healthy vegan diet, including for children, here's some from NHS.
The vegan diet
Guidance on following a Vegan diet with young children

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

Malnourishment should be a proper cause for removal. Most children can thrive on a properly nutritious plant based diet just fine.

Non-extremist vegans are sane about a lot of this kind of stuff. (And most vegans are of this non-extremist variety.) For example, they still accept vaccines that are developed with eggs. If a person or other animal in their care needs animal products in their diet, they see no moral issue with accommodating this.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago

Doesn't seem like a genuine ask to me, you seem to just want to find a reason to talk about something you have already decided on. Is this really on topic for an ask community?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago

No. Parents who starve their children should, but the vast majority of vegan parents don't. It's completely possible to feed a child a vegan diet that meets their nutritional requirements.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Since this is the first post of yours I'm coming across, I'm going to interact here.

Now, first off, lemme give some disclaimers.

I am a known vegan troll. I have baited, and most definitely will bait again, vegan zealots. It makes me giggle how easy it is, and I'm okay with this being my major personality flaw.

Second, that while I used to be responsible on a professional level for maintaining the dietary health of my patients, among other responsibilities, I am constantly lagging behind bleeding edge research on most of the science side of plant based diets. Notice that there is a difference between eating a plant based diet and being a vegan. Vegans aren't the same thing as vegetarians, they have an extended system of belief beyond dietary.

With that out of the way, the problem isn't a vegan problem. It's an education problem.

When a plant based diet is applied improperly, nutritional deficits occur.

However, when a standard diet of mixed plant and animal based foods is applied improperly, nutritional deficits occur.

As such, vegans need no extra layers of attention in general.

What is needed is rapid education programs for parents when it is discovered that they aren't providing good nutrition, regardless of plant based or animal included diets. Because you can raise kids on a plant based diet entirely. It's just harder, you need to have a better grasp of what foods can and can't provide enough of what kids need.

It's only when a parent refuses to correct their ignorance of dietary needs that separation should be mandated.

Unfortunately, there's really nowhere that provides good nutritional education as part of public education. At best, you get the whole food pyramid explanation and are then told to go fuck yourself lol. Even elective classes like home ec rarely go in depth into the specific nutritional needs of children.

This means that intervention needs to start with education, not separation. You can't really punish the family for a societal failure. And yes, separation punishes the children and the parents, even when it isn't the primary goal (or shouldn't be). There's plenty of damn good reasons that keeping families intact is, and should be, the default goal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Since this is the first post of yours I’m coming across, I’m going to interact here.

FYI, it’s not: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/17256373

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

I had completely forgotten lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I already spoke extensively about this https://hackertalks.com/comment/7204773

In your last ask post a few hours ago. Honestly, I think you're posting too frequently about this topic. Once is good, let the conversation happen, don't keep beating the drum

Or if you do want to do a deep dive on each dimension of this topic, I suggest creating a community specifically for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

OP does indeed seem to have a vegan trolling stance https://lemmy.ca/post/37195317