Shout them down in every space, make them embarrased to think the stupid shit they think.

If we don't embarrass and correct them now we will have to kill them later when they come for our friends and families.

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    We just watched one do a nazi salute twice, on national TV, in the seat of government and not a single member of the "opposition" had the balls to walk up there and punch him in the face.

    The Nazis have won. People care more about civility than fascism.

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    [–] 48 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Tbh Black metal (awesome as it is) has a lot of ties to Nazi movements. Back when I was first getting into it I bought myself a Burzum shirt, because I only had a vague idea of Varg being somewhat of a controversial figure. I thought, how bad could this guy really be? Well... He is B A D. Despite a lot of this kind of music still being a guilty pleasure of mine I have ventured into anti Nazi bands such as Neckbeard Death camp, who are really vocal about kicking Nazis from the scene. That being said, traverse black metal paying heed to your step, for ignorance can end you up with neo Nazi band merch.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Damn I love Lemmy, this would get OP banned on Reddit ... just the truth.

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    [–] 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I have a Celtic knot tattoo on my forearm (actually it's the album cover of King Crimson's album Discipline).
    My British friend told me I shouldn't display that in public in the UK because people might think I'm a neonazi.
    I'm like fuck no, Celtic symbols don't belong to Nazis and I won't let them have it! Also, it's a prog album cover wtf

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    [–] 37 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Or Hawaiian shirts. Man, I love my Hawaiian shirts and I was not happy when they were briefly associated with some nonsense fucking Civil War 2.0 bullshit. I'm very glad that particular stylistic movement fell apart.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago

    Nazis are cultural parasites.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    They’ve already taken some Metal. Went to a Metallica concert and there were trump flags in the parking lot, militia-style shirts, firearms shirts, blue line flag shirts, Punisher skull shirts…. I was surrounded by White Power and authoritarians. The Metal Heads I grew up with all decided they wanted to carry the batons and riot shields they hated in their youth. Didn’t help that FFDP was there with their military fetish and making commentary about the Biden administration.

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    [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They already took flags in multiple countries.

    It’s always iffy when you carry the flag of your country because the people who do that tend to be assholes. Let’s not let them get anything else.

    And take the flags back too.

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    [–] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There's a specific breed of online Nazis who insist that it's 'punk' to be Conservative.

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    [–] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Man, feel like Norse iconography might be almost a lost cause here. I was looking into getting a Thor's Hammer tattoo years ago... Every variation you can think of has been co-opted by a Nazi group somewhere. I think it was the FBI that used to keep a database of symbols linked to terrorist groups, most of it was various flavors of Nazis and most of that was symbols stolen from Norse culture.

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    This is why gatekeeping is actually important. But you've got to be sure you're keeping out the people who want to change the group, rather than people who want to join it.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I remember when Anime ang gaming were pretty progressive. Now they complain wokism about everything. God fucking damn.
    Then the hentai thing is insane how the rape theme took over. They cry censorship and shit but man you follow a guy in Instagram that does hentai ONLY ABOUT RAPE! 80+ works all about rape! You don't see a fuckin problem there buddy?
    Yeah it gone a little personal.

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    [–] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Is there a conservative punk rock movement?

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    the bigger thing right now is people being purposefully obtuse and treating "punk" as the same thing as "counter culture."

    conservatives are using this argument to state that they are the REAL punks because they are anti-establishment (while somehow holding all branches of the government but whatever)

    in their mind punk people change their political ideologies to whatever is the opposite of who is in power, and so clearly all existing punks had to flip to the other side the second obama was elected or something.

    (I'm a second generation punk on both sides and my whole family would curb stomp these asshats)

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Conservatives have never and will never be the punk, because punk is a counterculture movement against cultural conservatism, not who is in office at any given time. Punk has always been about cultural freedom, and conservatism is about cultural restriction.

    One of the best examples of conservatives' superficial understanding of counterculture was during the 2020 elections in Philadelphia, when some Boomers wrapped themselves in flags outside a polling place and danced to RATM "Killing in the Name". They heard the words "fuck you I won't do what you tell me", and decided that it represented THEM, while discarding the rest of the lyrics and the entire meaning of the song.

    They do this with all media, from music to books to movies and TV. Their understanding and interpretation of art begins and ends at the surface level.

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    [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They are fucking losers who have based their life on hate. It’s all they have, we gotta show their idiot followers they have no fun. We know how to fucking party. Party for freedom! Be excellent to each other. I want a bill and Ted future, not a handmaidens tale. Stand up and fight back!

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    [–] 15 points 1 year ago*

    Yeah don't let them have the swastika either.

    Wait… I'm hearing it's too late for that. Damn.

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