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Is this vandalism?
(lemmy.ca)
yeah the sticker's value is ruined now that the back is covered in shit
A mango-american once said:
People are pathetic
Yeah, those cybertruck drivers are pretty lame.
Yeah, they are.
Pathetic for owning a dumpster that pretends to be a truck.
People are getting caught up on semantics vs. ethics in this thread. Is it vandalism? Yes, textbook. Is it okay? Also yes, fuck these people for bankrolling his coup.
So basically... Wrong:Yes, Justified: Also yes
See Luigi
Legality and morality are distinctly independent concepts.
Should laws follow morality?
Ideally, yes.
In capitalism…not even in the same universe
Is this vandalism?
It sure is! Keep up the awesome work - maybe set a couple of the fuckers on fire while you're out there.
The legal status of what you're doing to Nazi's shit can go fuck right off. Deface or destroy it as often as you can get away with.
This is morally okay and ethical thing to do.
Vandalism or resistance?
Depends on the point of view.
Vandalism.
Would you like to explain to the dealership that gave me a shitty old loaner Tesla why you decided to vandalize their property and make me have to deal with it through my insurance?
Don’t vandalize other people’s shit. You don’t know what their situation is. Golden rule, motherfucker.
Would you like to explain to the dealership that gave me a shitty old loaner Tesla why you decided to vandalize
Surely you realize that analogy is flawed? That's not an old loaner—even if it is shitty—it's an eighty-thousand dollar and higher, highly controversial, highly marketed, nearly experimental vehicle. No reasonable person is chasing after poor sods with old loaners to vandalize.
Don’t vandalize other people’s shit. You don’t know what their situation is. Golden rule, motherfucker.
Since we're being nice about it, how about don't support nazis. Golden rule, dipshit.
...I don't think you're a dipshit, but I do think "vandalism or not" is irrelevant, here. Property isn't sacred, and even if it were, vandalizing nazi symbols would be far from the worst sin to commit.
$80k? My loaner is not worth that much, even brand new. It’s not a special model or anything.
No reasonable person is chasing after poor sods with old loaners to vandalize.
I got harassed today for my loaner, the same day I got it. How are people supposed to separate those with loaners from those with their own vehicle and vandalize accordingly?
How about don’t support nazis.
I wholeheartedly agree. You still shouldn’t vandalize other people’s shit.
Property isn’t sacred, but how about we just don’t vandalize property because we don’t know everyone’s situation?
If my loaner gets vandalized I’m not going to hate Elon any more. I’m going to be pissed off that now I have to deal with that bullshit because some asshole decided to make a statement I never needed.
If you are this inconvenienced by driving a Tesla that puts me off from buying or renting one, since I wouldn't want to go through that. Makes me want to stay away from Tesla with what a hassle it is. I'd ask for another loaner personally, but more power to you for wanting to keep sticking with it.
Yep you got me, I desperately wanted the first loaner to have a fucked up tire and for the shop to not have anything else when I asked for something different, resulting in having a loaner I fucking hate, because I secretly wanted it and hoped it would happen that way.
Harassing people for their choices does not convince them of anything other than you’re an asshole, vandalizing their property (especially property that has cameras everywhere and records you doing so) just requires them to give Tesla more money to fix it, which completely invalidates your reason for doing so. Like when Republicans boycott a product by buying the product and destroying it.
I genuinely hope more people stay away from Teslas, they’re dogshit and their Nazi-ass owner shouldn’t be supported. But I’m also not inclined to fuck over other people’s shit about it. Fuck me, I guess.
Yeah plan to. It seems like a very scary car to be associated with in the current public climate. Brand has become radioactive and too ideological tied to political figures. Seems like anger is just slowly increasing over the past several weeks too.
Yep something I wasn’t sure was a thing until I experienced a small taste of it today. That’s one of the reasons I feel strongly about it. Harassing me for the loaner I got does nothing to dissuade legit Tesla owners. It just pisses me off and makes me feel like I made a mistake in a situation I had no direct control over.
Vandalizing a Tesla does nothing but put more money in Tesla’s pockets for the repair costs, and potentially fuck yourself over with vandalism charges.
We’re in a class war, and our beef is with them, and specifically in this case, Elon’s exploitation of the current Administration to dismantle the government. So why the fuck are we still vilifying each other over their actions?
I don't think people are trying to change minds anymore. I don't think people even believe it is possible to change minds. I think it's to make people afraid to make future rentals or purchases or associations unless they are a strong party affiliate.
It had me start looking into stocks of BYD and other competitors wondering where investors might flow to if the cultural sentiment keeps escalating to a full on alt right brand.
I don’t think people are trying to change minds anymore.
Yeah, I can see that. Both in online forums as well as with any kind of brand discussion, EV or otherwise. Everyone’s mind is made up already.
But using fear to force your political views has another word: Terrorism. I can’t believe that to be the right path forward either, and I don’t think that’ll stop alt-rights or Tesla devotees. It’ll just widen the divide even more.
I would love for Lucid and Polestar to put out more affordable models. Ford, Toyota and Chevrolet have been taking real half-measures in the EV space, and have been donating a LOT of money to the GOP in recent years so I don’t want to give them my business either. It’s hard finding a lesser evil when most of the competition is involved closely with the fossil fuel industry.
My sibling has a Nissan Leaf and loves it, but those are really showing their age now.
Yes but only because that piece of shit truck is so badly designed a sticker will ruin the finish
The truck is ruining the sticker, you mean.
“Truck” being applied rather liberally to what basically amounts to a portable biohazard dump.
This is dumb... if tomorrow I heard John Toyota was a child molester I wouldn't make it top priority to sell my car
Henry Ford was a piece of shit, but I still have a Fiesta. 🤷🏻♂️
Henry Ford has been dead for over half a century.
Elon is showing up at Alternative für Deutschland events and doing nazi salutes.
The rich have yet again convinced the working class to attack each other
I get your point but is someone who owns a $100k+ truck really in the working class?
A 100k auto loan with 20k down financed for 84 months is $1,1167/mo.
It isn't an intelligent purchase, but it is very much in the budget for a professional working class person.
Guess we would need to agree on what "working class" means.
People who earn their living primarily from working and earning a paycheck.
As opposed to the capital class, who earn their living primarily from interest on their invested capital.
So brain surgeons are working class, not upper class? Because they make half a million on salary?
Yes, brain surgeons are working class. They earn a lot because they actually produce a lot of value. If you suffer from a brain disease, getting surgery to fix it is probably one of the most valuable things you can get (depending on the severity, it will be the most valuable thing). Additionally, it requires a lot of skill.
Technically, yes.
In my mind, whether or not this person deserves it depends on when they bought the truck. If they ordered it long before Elmo began showing us how insane he really was, then they're just a bit of a douche. If they bought it since the salute, they deserve more than a sticker.
by the time the cybertruck was announced he was very publicly insane already.
also regardless of musk, this is a death trap that shouldn't be (and in normal countries isn't) allowed on the road at all. Just because the US law allows billionaires to kill children doesn't mean we should as well. a sticker is getting off easy.
no excuse for owning a cybertruck.
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