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The swirling controversy over how Premier Doug Ford's government removed protected land from Ontario's Greenbelt to build housing is weakening voter support for the premier and his Progressive Conservative party, according to a pair of new opinion polls released this week.

Both polls — one conducted by the Angus Reid Institute and the other by Abacus Data — show recent drops in approval for Ford and the Progressive Conservatives. Pollsters for both firms believe the Greenbelt saga is a key factor.

"The Greenbelt has been the issue that has dominated headlines over the last several weeks," said Shachi Kurl, president of the non-profit Angus Reid Institute.

"It's hard to decouple that from these findings."

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anyone following this circus knows well that they removed the old incompetent housing minster and brought a new minister who now will take MORE lands from green built. You all are being played. Worst part, not even 10% of developments will have affordable housing, which is how you know the gov. of Ontario is run by the corrupt Doug tub of shit Ford..

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

not even 10% of developments will have affordable housing

That doesn't matter so much. Even if the people who live there are wealthier, it means they are not living somewhere else, and those who aren't so well off can live in those places.

If you're not so well off chances are you don't want to live out in the middle of nowhere anyway. Middle of nowheres cost a lot more to live in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Remember when we said that as COVID raged and health care workers were hung out to dry?

I remember that. And he got a majority government because of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The Abacus Data poll, conducted over a week starting Aug. 29 and released Tuesday, found the PC party with the support of 34 per cent of committed voters, down seven points from the firm's previous Ontario politics survey in mid-July.

Despite the apparent drop in voter support for Ford, both polls found neither the opposition Liberals nor NDP have gained enough ground to overtake the PCs.

After vowing throughout his first term in office that he wouldn't touch the Greenbelt, Ford reversed course last November and announced the government was lifting environmental protections on land at 15 hand-picked sites to allow the construction of 50,000 homes.

Last month, Ontario Auditor General Bonnie Lysyk found developers heavily influenced the selection of those sites, and estimated that the government's move boosted the value of the lands by at least $8.3 billion.

Wake said it all led to Ford's cabinet making what he called "an uninformed and opaque decision which resulted in the creation of an opportunity to further the private interests of some developers improperly."

Both reports showed that developers, their lawyers or their lobbyists were in contact during September and October of 2022 with the chief of staff to then-minister Steve Clark about their Greenbelt properties, well before the government made any public announcements about its plans.


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