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submitted 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Gas stoves fill the air in your home with particulate matter (pm), which has been found to increase cancer risk in the long term.

So next time you buy a stove, consider choosing an induction stove.

Btw, gas stoves being better or faster than induction is a myth. They have certain specific advantages, but they are actually slower.

Obligatory Technology Connections video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUywI8YGy0Y

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (6 children)

gas stoves being better or faster than induction is a myth. They have certain specific advantages, but they are actually slower.

If you have 380/400V 16A induction, it's not even close.
But be careful, if you have ceramic coated pans for instance, and you use the high power settings to heat it up, your pans won't last long, as the ceramic may crack because of the fast heat up. We lost 2 pans that way. πŸ˜‹
We also had a cheap cooking pot, where it developed a crack between the main pot and the apparently cheaply attached heat spreading bottom.
This made the pot sputter because water was collected in the crack when washed.
When I boil eggs, i time it from the moment the water is boiling. But with out new stove, the water boils so fast, I've had to add 2 minutes to the time they boil!!

Our electric kettle is 2.2 kW. But boiling a liter of water on the stove is still more than twice as fast!! Meaning the stove must be putting more than 4.4 kW to the pot, on the smallest cooking spot!!

Obviously that is only possible for 1 spot at a time, I figure the max must be around 6kW combined.

They have certain specific advantages, but they are actually slower.

I can't think of any advantages, gas stoves are slower, they are harder to clean, they give off an insane amount of wasted heat, which is uncomfortable in hot weather, and they noticeably degrade air quality unless you have very good ventilation.

The only possible advantage I can think of, is that you can use cheaper equipment on gas. but not always, because non metal handles tend to get ruined on gas stoves.

All in all induction is superior. 😎

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

If you have 380V 16A induction, it's not even close.

Is that a common setup? That sounds very high-powered

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago

This is very common in Denmark, and I suspect in much of Europe.
This is commonly used for stoves, ovens, dishwashers, dryers and washing machines. 30 years ago it was vastly dominant.
But today most 380/400v equipment can also run on 230/240v (2 phases instead of 3). Many now use standard 230/240v because most equipment has become more power efficient.

PS: Apparently we actually have 400v for 3 phases. So our stove is 400v. I just chose the lower number to not exaggerate.
I've tried to find out why both numbers are used, and all I can find is that it's due to regional differences?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Depends where you live, 240v/30 or 50 amps is the standard in North America

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Guess that's what threw me off. 240v is what our electric (non-gas) appliances use in the States, 380v sounded like it could be commercial-style equipment or something

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

Correct, it exists for commercial applications but sometimes even the grid where you're at might not support it (if you're in a more remote location).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

I checked mine, which is a fairly basic model, and it's actually 400V.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I overall agree with technology connections on this with two caveats.

I have, in my day, used some truly craptastic electric stoves that seriously struggled to get a normal sized pot of water to a rolling boil. This was definitely the cheapest, crappiest stove that an Airbnb owner could possibly find to furnish the kitchen with.

I've also used some really crappy gas stoves but none have struggled that hard. So I think if you're scraping the bottom of the barrel for budget brand stoves, you may find yourself really frustrated with some electric options.

Also, my home stove is a somewhat less craptastic electric stove, but still not at all high end. I find that for some of my cookware the burners are too small resulting in some serious hotspots in the middle while you can barely cook on the outer edges even after letting the pan preheat for a decent amount of time. You're always going to have some amount of a hotspot with almost any stove, but this one is really drastic, and I've never experienced anything so bad on gas stoves, probably because the heat escaping around the edges manages to heat the outer parts of the pan a little better.

I'm not exactly pining for a gas stove, and I can't have one in this house even if I wanted one, but it is a little frustrating sometimes as someone who likes to cook, which technology connections has admitted is not one of his many niche interests.

My next stove will be induction, and probably every stove I ever buy after that.

I guess the overall takeaway from this is, if you're buying an electric stove and actually like to cook, don't cheap out and make sure you get one where the burners can handle the size cookware you might use.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have more detail on this? What types of particulate matter exactly?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago

Not OP, but combustion byproducts/impurities mostly. Get a air quality sensor and watch it go mad when you start cooking.

The one real downside to induction is actually its speed. You can really easily burn your food very quickly if your not careful. IKEA sell an induction hot plate for $40AUD, well worth giving it a try.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (12 children)

Yes, a little bit… Burning any kind of fuel in your home is going to produce carcinogens.

But it’s really nothing to get too excited about, and cooking on electric is bullshit

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

I remember reading a study on this where all the scientists replaced their home ranges because the results were so bad.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

we have a decent quality induction range and electric stove and we'd never bother considering to go back to gas

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Cooking in electric is fine, just different. I had an exposed coil stove for a while which was passable, but my glass top coil range is rather good. I grew up on gas and honestly my only complaint about electric is a bit slower heating time and it doesn't react as fast as I'd like, but it's not nearly as bad as people like to claim.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

I used to be 100% for gas ranges. Except for a couple of specific usecases, my 200v induction stove is great. I have a separate cannister gas stove if I want to really go to town on a wok or something. I've been converted.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It depends. A really good induction stove is fine. The cheap ones they put in rentals are all really annoying though. Bad UI is my main gripe with them honestly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

I think they are more than fine but bad UI is real

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