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Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton's trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

If you're looking to shake up your email provider in the wake of this, I highly recommend getting a custom domain name, whatever provider you choose. Cloudflare sells domains at cost. Get a not-embarrasing .com of your own, and then you can move email providers in future without losing continuity. Proton allows exporting .eml files, which you can then import into your next provider. Or just keep in cold storage and declare email bankruptcy. Once you have a custom domain, you can use unique emails for all your services by setting up a catchall address. This will at least impede credential stuffing attacks, and let you know who sold/leaked your address if you do get spam.

I personally left Proton a month or so ago after the last bit of drama, in part out of principle, but also because their offering is just really expensive for my use case: I just want email, on a budget, with reasonable privacy. Plus I was tired of not having IMAP support and being locked into their clients. Moved to a Zoho business account (for now) and have been happy for the $12/yr. I already had a domain name, but they typically run <$20/year too.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Does anyone know of a good alternative to simple login? They're owned my proton too and I have about 150+ aliases to move

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I've been giving them the benefit of the doubt, but I'm kinda done with them. Anyone have any suggestions for a mail provider? I'm not yet willing to self-host that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

If all you need is mail, Tuta.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I've been happy with mailbox.org. I left proton after the boot licking. I had been a paying customer for years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

I just signed up for mailbox.org, let's see how this goes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 34 points 16 hours ago

Funny how they didn’t make actual post on Mastodon, but just silently edited their profile to say they left Mastodon? That’s pretty cowardly.

Yet another reason to not like Proton.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Guess I made the right choice to leave Proton.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

Looks like Tuta’s getting my business now.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

Unfortunately, they lock you in. If they decide the AfD is their best friend, you can't get the emails out of their system because they don't have an email export function...

Anti Commercial-AI license

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

At least they are still on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/proton.me

But a true fediverse presence would be better

[–] [email protected] 33 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Bluesky is not much better than X despite it claiming to

[–] [email protected] 42 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

It's... better in the sense that you don't have right wing weirdos all over the place. But technically? Organizationally? Feels like we're on track to replay the same exact shit over again. It feels like people just aren't learning the lessons they should from the Twitter takeover.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Bluesky can be taken over by a billionaire. The fediverse cannot. Bluesky is just another Musk waiting to happen.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Why do you keep adding that license to all your posts? You're like those boomers on Facebook that fell for that "Facebook doesn't own my photos cause I say so" meme.

No AI is gonna pay attention to whatever this is.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago

Bluesky is WAY better than Twitter. It's still vulnerable to the same issues Twitter is, but someplace with no nazis is always going to be better than someplace with nazis.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 16 hours ago

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

This is a genuine question : how Proton stopping using Mastodon for communication make them bad ?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

so the social media manager has time to clean the toilets in the afternoon

[–] [email protected] 9 points 15 hours ago

I can see a company not wanting to invest resources in a social media platform without critical mass. But for a company that itself is trying to gain critical mass, moving away from a similarly situated privacy focused platform is idiotic. It signals to potential Proton users that the company cannot be trusted and it’s very hard to recover from that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

I believe I'll need to move to mailbox.org with custom domains.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Anyone know any good vpn alternatives with port forwarding?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago

Yeah fuck proton

[–] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago

Good bye privacy.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 17 hours ago

Proton is a CIA honeypot episode 978.

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