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[–] 63 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Elon Musk is a foreigner that is directly causing our current problems.

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  • [–] [S] 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The US has been the most evil country on earth long before musk arrived.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I would argue that the British Empire and Belgium were pretty fucking evil long before the US came into existence.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    After WW2 most of the worlds imperialism, death and destruction and theft has shifted. The main perpetrator went from being Europe to the US. With Europe remaining complicit of course.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Elon Musk is a foreigner

    No, he's an American citizen. Or are American liberals full 'blood and soil' now?

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It’s those fucking illegals who came over on the mayflower that caused this

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    Mfw the country is founded by foreigners who didn’t like the other foreigners

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago

    Lots of populist European parties are doing the same and are actually gaining votes by blaming everything on the immigrants.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    The only wrong part of this meme is the implication that burgers would even try to not blame foreign meddling.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    They don't even try.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    It's also a problem in europe

    Edit: people blaming immigrants, that is, not immigration itself

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    No you don't understand, it wasn't 80 years of fascist power consolidation and continual capitalist cannibalization since the 70s, It is all Putin manipulating social media causing the material conditions in the Global North. One thing is for sure, no one wrote a book in the nineteenth century describing this exactly.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I’ll start. Go home white people! Go back to where you came from!

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'd love to live in Denmark, that's where most of my heritage comes from.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago

    One in particular from. South Africa

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's not like most european countries are in a good position to justifiably point fingers here ...

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    The author Domenico Losurdo uses the term mutual demystification a lot, especially in Liberalism - a counter history. When two parties accuse each other of being hypocrites, it often ends up showing that they both are.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'd like to point out that I'm european, not american - this is the opposite of calling each other hypocrites.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    When people are not brain dead by media, both in the US and EU we know all of our problems comes from our own government and fat CEOs.

    Foreigners are just one of the many scapegoats they put the blame on.

    What it reminds me of is Greeks and then Romans calling them barbarian, from barbar meaning foreigners. This isn't new...

    The problem always was power and the unfit nature of human beings to possess it.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I wouldn't expect anyone to deny the existence of corruption or abuse of power, but I think the corrupting influence of power is often used to justify in retrospect the acts of people put into power to do exactly that. It might sound pedantic to say that CEOs or state officials aren't really "corrupt", because they rarely ever intend to represent the interests of the workforce or population, but really it's a total inversion of causality. They don't "betray" because they got in power, they got in power to "betray".

    On an interesting sidenote, it also goes against the common misconception that any form of authority ultimately leads to corruption, since those same CEOs and officials seem to stay pretty loyal.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    Capitalism and First-past-the-post voting.

    Capitalists hate competition.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It’s not necessarily foreigners, but rather billionaires that are the problem. They bought off and corrupted government officials long ago, and directed them to perform heinous acts to line their pockets further. The rich have got to be stopped in order for things to get better. I’d prefer to simply tax them out of existence, but there are other means available…

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  • [–] [S] 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The US was founded on slavery and genocide / conquest of hundreds of indigenous nations. It's rotten to the core.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah, and many of those founders were rich businessmen who didn’t want to pay taxes to the king of England. This is a human problem, not a national one.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 2 years ago*

    George washington, franklin, jefferson, madison, all the founders were slave-owning colonizers who explicitly modelled their country after ancient Rome.

    It's not a human problem, these were specifically evil people who did not share the same values as the people they murdered and enslaved.

    Most countries were not founded in this way.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, and many of those founders were rich businessmen who didn’t want to pay taxes to the king of England.

    They were pissy that the king made it illegal to expand westward and exterminate all of the indigenous people. They were all "no, actually, the British Empire isn't evil enough. Let's make an even bigger and eviller empire than the [at the time] most evil empire on Earth."

    This is a human problem, not a national one.

    It is a national and class problem, not a human one. Human nature is a bs concept invented to sell the status quo.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    It's not like Musk was elected.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    He looks like he's taking a shit

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