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The president of Mexico on Thursday expressed hope that Google "reconsiders" its decision to change its online maps to reflect U.S. President Donald Trump's claim that he has the authority to change the name of the Gulf of Mexico.

Shortly after taking office, Trump issued an executive order announcing he was changing the name of the body of water to the Gulf of America.

For U.S. users of Google Maps, the gulf was listed as the Gulf of America as of Thursday. Google, whose CEO attended Trump's inauguration along with other tech moguls, said last month it has "a long-standing practice of applying name changes when they have been updated in official government sources."

But Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum warned Thursday that her government "will file a civil suit" against Google if it does not revert back to labeling the international body of water the Gulf of Mexico.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

What's dumb about this is that in their jurisdiction (Mexico) it is actually the "Gulf of Mexico" in Google Maps, they don't get the "Gulf of America" name. In the US it's labelled as "Gulf of America" without mentioning "Gulf of Mexico" which you could argue Google has to do because it (theoretically) follows national laws everywhere it operates.

That's why Korean users don't see the Sea of Japan to their east, they see the East Sea. That's why in some locations the Persian Gulf is referred to as the Arabian Gulf instead. It's also why inside India the borders you see for Kashmir don't match the borders you see for Kashmir if you're in Pakistan. The rest of the world sees a third version of that area with areas marked as disputed.

What's really annoying is that every other country in the world is exposed to this "Gulf of America" silliness, even countries where people don't speak English. I can understand (just barely) having "(Gulf of America)" under "Gulf of Mexico" in English-speaking countries because if someone is hearing news from a US source and they refer to the Gulf of America, it might be useful to know what they're talking about. It's in the news now, but in 3 years say you're a high-school kid trying to do a geography report and can't find the feature on the map, that could be annoying.

But, this parenthesis rule apparently even extends to Germany, where it's "Golf von Mexiko (Golf von Amerika)". There's no reason to include a name that doesn't exist in your language on your version of the maps app. If I, as an English-maps user look at Germany, I don't get Munich (Munchen). I don't get Florence (Firenze), I don't get India (Bhārat). There's a long-standing tradition that maps show things in the name that's local to the map user. Sometimes, over time, a name gets changed to be closer to the way it's said in the local language, so Peking became Beijing.

Also, google addressed this in a blog post from 2008, almost literally describing this situation:

"How Google determines the names for bodies of water in Google Earth ... if a ruler announced that henceforth the Pacific Ocean would be named after her mother, we would not add that placemark unless and until the name came into common usage"

Other than the ruler not being female, the body of water being a different one, and "America" not being Donald Trump's mother, this is the exact situation.

Edit: I guess technically Donald Trump is female.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

Don’t forget apple

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Republicans are so good at baiting liberals into useless bullshit arguments, while they plunder stuff that actually matters.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

I prefer the name "golfo del gringo loco"

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Save your old maps for when this shit has to be reversed in 4 years unless the voters elect another republican troglodyte.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I hope they're so screwed over and see no real progress come next election because many are being affected, that's for sure. They'll reap the shittier half of what they sowed.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I used to be a "let's find some mutual understanding" guy but now that they've dumped this disaster on the nation I have no sympathy for them. Lost your healthcare? Cuts in services? Sucks to be you...

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Google also removed the ability to suggest edits to specifically the Gulf.

Guess they knew ahead of time they'd get an influx of requests to change or back.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

PLEASE.DO IT

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I stopped using everything Google. Fascist collaborators won't get a dime of my money, won't get my eyeballs on any of their ads, and won't get a single kilobyte of data from me to sell for profit.

I'll keep my gmail account open because all it really does is accumulate spam which probably costs them money.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't sue- just threaten to block some of googles services in your country and they'll come around real quick. Hit em where it hurts. Google isn't hurting for lawyers.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You have to hit them in the wallet. Every time Trump does or says anything about tariffs, just starting increasing tariffs on all Tesla products.

We can't hit Trump directly but we can hit his little friends quite easily.

Musk will have an absolute meltdown on twitter of course, but if you just ignore him he'll give up. He's already shown that he is prepared to back down if he's actually facing financial penalties.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Funny thing - I just checked yandex maps (because I'm bored) and it still shows "gulf of mexico" on it.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Can someone just make a mod or something for g-maps to name all American names to like Spanish ones? Nuevo York, Guashintón Distrito de Columbia, that kinda stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't even bother with a pointless lawsuit. Simply stop using Google.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Nah, they're a megacorp, you gotta hurt them where it counts - in their bottom line. Make them use their super expensive lawyers to defend this shit. Honestly more people/entities should do this. Even pro se, these corporate lawyers cost these companies literally hundreds of thousands of dollars to go into court. Just imagine how much you could cost them if everyone started suing them for any little thing. Even a response to a lawsuit requires a lawyer, which requires time and effort.

Its literally the only thing they care about - money. Strongly worded letters and protests aren't enough. They can ignore those.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just call it the Gulf of Fuck The Environment, We're Getting Rich!

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

So why did google change it in Canada?

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