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[–] 61 points 2 years ago (19 children)

seriously disapointing performance by the NYPD .., i dont know the rules but they didnt get a single bystander

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (18 children)

    In their defense, I did not see any black people in the crowd.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    Should have painted the target black and the sniper would have 360 no scoped it. Also the dead weight dummy wasn't white, clearly the reason why the pigs struggled.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    To be fair even with the power of racism on his side, by the time he started setting up the Chinese sniper had already finished the job

    He ain't beating that even if he was the most racist man in the world

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (13 children)

    Uncle Ruckus would have nailed it I tell ya hwat.

    Edit: By the time he hit his target the Chinese team was done lol. Not just the sniper. He hits at 55 and they're out at 56

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

    By the time he hit his target the Chinese team was done lol. Not just the sniper. He hits at 55 and they're out at 56

    I know right? I was just talking about how the Chinese sniper had already set up before the pig got up the stairs and took his shot before the pig even got his sniper rifle into position but the whole team finishing before the pig took his shot is just chefs-kiss xi-lib-tears

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  • [–] 59 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I’ve said this for years. American and Americans have been romanticized by Hollywood about their actual capability.

    Once you actually look at their accomplishments a lot of their might falls away.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    The only war the US has won in the 20th and 21st century is the one in Iraq, and only if you make an arbitrary cutoff point. They like to brag about WWII as if that wasn't the Soviets doing all the work. WWI? Literally same deal lol.
    The US isn't competent, it never was, it's just got enough money it can afford to pay its way out. Like a modern day Roman empire, paying it's way to avoid crisis after crisis while allowing it's internal infrastructure to fall apart.

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  • [–] 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Top comment in that thread is just peak chefs-kiss

    The American sniper hesitated because the target was white.

    I am convinced at least 1/3 of cop killings in the US are directly because the cops are too lazy to chase someone or go through the hassle of talking someone down.

    Edit: rewatched it and jfc even their sprinting is in unison lol. While the Americans can barely be bothered to lumber over there

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  • [–] 52 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Wild difference between the centralized state organized and ran system of the public security forces of the PRC versus the decentralized regional gang system of the U.S.A

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    One of the upsides of American police being lionized and given way too much funding and not held to account when they fail is that a lot of their "fighting" prowess is just nonexistent when they don't have six of their friends in riot gear to also beat the shit out of you

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Same thing almost everywhere. Euromaidan was fascists taking over, but the fights with the police were still educational. Summer of 2020 got taken over by libs, but there, too, were lessons learned.
    Cops are top heavy and scared.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago* (19 children)

    That chinese team dummy pick up is insane. It makes the dummy look weightless

    EDIT: Knock on wood and all but imagine you're wounded in an emergency situation in china and the next thing you know you're on two dudes shoulders, 10m away from were you were a second ago while they sonic the hedgehog your ass out of there

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (18 children)

    I was confused, was the dummy meant to be an incapacitated victim? Because carrying it over the shoulder with no head support could exacerbate any spinal injuries. I get that this is all show, but I'd hope to goodness in a real situation there'd be more care paid to the victim.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children)

    I mean it's the UAE Swat Challenge so I assume whatever scenarios they cook up appeals mostly to SWAT perverts. They're all gasmasking up before entering, I guess the assumption is nerve gas attack or some bullshit where becoming a paraplegic because the chinese cops yeeted you out of the dangerzone so hard your spinal cord fell out still beats death by asphyxiation.

    EDIT: Okay they called it a hostage rescue in the serbia attempt so I guess the assumption is this whole thing operates on counter strike logic except you're not limited to the follow command and everybody is metagaming it

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Wish I could draw so I could make a kelly-comic about how in the good old days SWAT was all about fighting cultists, and nowadays it's just terror (latest fad) attacks with nerve gas liberty-weeping

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    you mean like the videogames or is there actual SWAT history where their founding moment is like the jonestown cult or whatever?

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    American police just used to be very worried about satanic cults killing babies. A lot of their training scenarios would revolve around it. Satanic panic type stuff.

    There's this fantastic training movie on surviving edged weapons where information about how quickly a person can close 15 feet of distance, is presented side by side with a scenario of a satanic cult doing ritual human sacrifice. It was everywhere.

    There's still lots of current day training scenarios that revolve around "satanic cult doing something", but you'd have to go search thru local news for the interviews that mention it, because it's just taken for granted.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    love to learn the modern american police finds its roots in like the dastardly shariah police except christianity

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Y'allqaeda was the best piece of nomenclature cooked up on twitter and I'm sad it was just used for single militia instead of being descriptive of the religious right as a whole

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Yeah definitely. I'm sure they explained the scenario/challenge before, and this clip doesn't rehash it. Also the directive of life > limb probably holds for emergencies as you've described. Thanks :)

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Yeah definitely. I'm sure they explained the scenario/challenge before

    I don't think they did lmao. The website has 0 information around that and even the VOD somebody else posted here has no info on it in the first 10 minutes, at which the announcer says "I will of course repeat what is necessary to do in the course over the different attempts" or some such. Maybe they reveal the scenario at hour 7.

    I don't think any of it makes sense as a "real world" challenge unless you approach this with SWAT team member cop brain. I'm not gonna claim a police sniper rushing up 4 flights of stairs to hit an impressive shot right after, out of breath, isn't tense or exciting or whatever, but it is SWAT Team Member Daydream. For an actual police force, at the point where that is necessary to happen you fucked up. Either on the strategical level for the situation or like layers and layers above on a like "this is a government entity with a mission statement"-level.

    This challenge and the entire competition tells you nothing about policework other than how the competing teams would fare if they were thrown into action movie situations. It's impressive displays of skill and athleticism - I mean I don't think I run half that fast as the chinese dummy cops without sharing a bodyweight dummy with somebody - but at it's core it's police porn, not police work.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    the burger cop sniper taking so long and fumbling the magazine was very funny though

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    Absolutely on account of the NYPD is like the 8th biggest military in the world and the best they can send for the SWAT team challenge they voluntarily signed up for to compete in is a team of bozos that gets bodied by half the worlds, going by US premises here, failed state impoverished shitholes teams.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago

    Hahahahaha

    Congress will now pass a ban on posting cop competition videos with a $1m penalty

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (16 children)

    $5 billion well spent lmao

    They placed 84th out of 103 overall, and the highest ranking US cops were the San Antonio PD at 28th (China's teams placed 1st, 3rd, and 11th).

    Also goddamn that website is fucking awful. How can you make the UX of viewing a table so miserable? A pure HTML table would be 1000x more usable than this JS monstrosity which provides zero additional features beyond the privilege of waiting 5 seconds for the page to load and then having to click every time you want to see the next or previous 10 items.

    edit: I just grabbed the JSON and made it a Markdown table because fuck that. It even includes the countries which for some reason is in the JSON but not displayed in the table.

    results table

    Rank Country Team Original Time Penalty Time Total Time Total Points
    1 CHINA CHINA POLICE TEAM B 00:11:12.12 00:00:00.00 00:11:12.12 480
    2 KAZAKHSTAN SUNKAR 00:11:41.71 00:00:00.00 00:11:41.71 470
    3 CHINA china police team c 00:11:40.92 00:00:30.00 00:12:10.92 457
    4 KAZAKHSTAN arystan team 00:11:49.84 00:01:00.00 00:12:49.84 430
    5 THAILAND Royal Thai Police B 00:13:10.49 00:00:00.00 00:13:10.49 424
    6 THAILAND Royal Thai Police A 00:12:56.38 00:00:30.00 00:13:26.38 416
    7 KAZAKHSTAN SARDAR A 00:11:55.43 00:02:10.00 00:14:05.43 413
    8 KAZAKHSTAN National Guard Of Kazakhstan 00:13:11.11 00:00:30.00 00:13:41.11 410
    9 KAZAKHSTAN SSN AKTAU 00:12:59.56 00:01:00.00 00:13:59.56 408
    10 RWANDA RWANDA NATIONAL POLICE SWAT TEAM 1 00:12:57.51 00:00:30.00 00:13:27.51 407
    11 CHINA CHINA POLICE TEAM A 00:13:02.53 00:01:30.00 00:14:32.53 382
    12 KAZAKHSTAN ARLAN 00:13:53.91 00:01:30.00 00:15:23.91 377
    13 KYRGYZSTAN SSN A 00:13:06.57 00:00:50.00 00:13:56.57 368
    14 HUNGARY TEK 00:15:10.99 00:00:10.00 00:15:20.99 361
    15 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES Dubai Police A 00:13:21.87 00:01:00.00 00:15:51.87 360
    16 KAZAKHSTAN Berkut B 00:15:11.32 00:00:40.00 00:15:51.32 359
    17 RUSSIA SOBR 00:13:07.55 00:01:30.00 00:14:37.55 358
    18 RWANDA RWANDA NATIONAL POLICE SWAT TEAM 2 00:13:36.73 00:02:00.00 00:15:36.73 357
    19 BELARUS SPECIAL ANTI-TERRORISM UNIT ALMAZ 00:13:00.51 00:02:40.00 00:15:40.51 355
    20 SERBIA Military Police Detachment for Special Purposes Kobre 00:14:54.88 00:00:10.00 00:15:04.88 354
    21 KAZAKHSTAN SARDAR B 00:07:46.15 00:01:00.00 00:08:46.15 348
    22 KAZAKHSTAN KAZ SOF JAUBASAR 00:13:58.27 00:01:40.00 00:15:38.27 348
    23 KYRGYZSTAN Special Force KALKAN - 2 00:13:56.66 00:01:30.09 00:15:26.75 340
    24 KAZAKHSTAN Berkut A 00:12:52.30 00:03:40.00 00:16:32.30 340
    25 PHILIPPINES PHILIPPINE NATIONAL POLICE SPECIAL ACTION FORCE 00:14:46.26 00:01:00.00 00:15:46.26 334
    26 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES Dubai Police B 00:13:50.13 00:02:00.00 00:15:50.13 330
    27 JORDAN P.S.O POLICE SPECIAL OPERATION 00:16:10.69 00:00:30.00 00:16:40.69 328
    28 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA San Antonio PD 00:15:46.13 00:00:30.00 00:16:16.13 327
    29 RUSSIA Griden Team 1 00:14:17.77 00:01:30.00 00:15:47.77 322
    30 KYRGYZSTAN Special Force KALKAN - 1 00:13:12.16 00:04:10.00 00:17:22.16 315
    31 SERBIA SAJ Team Ministry of the Interior of the Republic of Serbia 00:14:15.40 00:02:20.00 00:16:35.40 314
    32 INDONESIA BRIMOB A 00:16:05.60 00:00:30.00 00:16:35.60 305
    33 BELARUS BELARUSSOBR 00:15:36.71 00:01:30.00 00:17:06.71 305
    34 RUSSIA Malakhit 00:15:51.20 00:02:10.00 00:18:01.20 299
    35 SERBIA Gendarmerie Team Ministry of the Interior of the Republic of Serbia 00:15:14.39 00:02:10.00 00:17:24.39 296
    36 RUSSIA Griden Team 2 00:15:37.72 00:02:40.00 00:18:17.72 289
    37 MEXICO Assault Team Mexico 00:15:22.81 00:01:20.00 00:16:42.81 288
    38 KAZAKHSTAN SSN ASTANA 00:16:08.46 00:01:40.00 00:17:48.46 284
    39 BAHRAIN Bahrain Defence Force Team A 00:15:30.15 00:01:10.00 00:16:40.15 283
    40 MONTENEGRO Special Police Unit 00:16:41.85 00:03:00.00 00:19:41.85 282
    41 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES UAE National Guard 00:15:39.69 00:01:10.00 00:16:49.69 281
    42 SAUDI ARABIA Saudi Internal Security Forces Sports Federation 00:10:46.82 00:00:00.00 00:10:46.82 267
    43 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES ABU DHABI POLICE A 00:15:37.09 00:02:00.00 00:17:37.09 263
    44 INDONESIA BRIMOB B 00:16:34.40 00:02:00.00 00:18:34.40 262
    45 OMAN OMAN TEAM 2 00:17:03.84 00:02:30.00 00:19:33.84 259
    46 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES sharjah swat team- A 00:15:52.53 00:02:30.00 00:18:22.53 257
    47 KYRGYZSTAN SPECIAL FORCES UNIT BORU 00:15:12.27 00:03:20.00 00:18:32.27 255
    48 THAILAND Royal Thai Police C 00:18:07.29 00:00:30.00 00:18:37.29 253
    49 BULGARIA SOBT 00:14:42.35 00:03:40.00 00:18:22.35 251
    50 OMAN OMAN TEAM 1 00:16:03.53 00:04:00.00 00:20:03.53 246
    51 BELARUS OMON - MINSK CITY SPECIAL POLICE SQUAD 00:16:13.14 00:03:30.00 00:19:43.14 245
    52 SOUTH AFRICA Special Task Force 00:17:34.89 00:01:50.00 00:19:24.89 242
    53 Republic of Turkey Polis Ozel Harekat Team ATA 00:14:11.43 00:07:10.00 00:21:21.43 242
    54 UZBEKISTAN Uzbekistan Police 00:16:15.10 00:05:20.00 00:21:35.10 230
    55 BAHRAIN Bahrain Defence Force Team B 00:19:40.05 00:04:40.00 00:24:20.05 228
    56 MOLDOVA SPPS Moldova 00:10:13.73 00:13:16.38 00:23:30.11 226
    57 MONGOLIA The State Special Protection Agency 00:16:40.69 00:03:00.00 00:19:40.69 223
    58 BOSNIA AND HERZEG SAJ RS 00:11:13.59 00:01:40.00 00:12:53.59 217
    59 KYRGYZSTAN Special operation force Scorpion 00:15:20.77 00:04:50.00 00:20:10.77 206
    60 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES DUBAI POLICE ACADEMY C 00:17:25.22 00:03:00.00 00:20:25.22 206
    61 KUWAIT KUWAIT NATIONAL GUARD S.O.B 67 00:19:25.80 00:03:00.00 00:22:25.80 206
    62 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES Dubai Police C 00:20:31.96 00:02:30.00 00:23:01.96 204
    63 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES Special Security Forces 1 00:21:07.53 00:04:40.00 00:25:47.53 199
    64 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES Dubai Police Academy B 00:19:17.18 00:01:30.00 00:20:47.18 198
    65 Republic of Turkey Polis Ozel Harekat Team Bozkurt 00:14:17.93 00:08:00.00 00:22:17.93 191
    66 VIETNAM Viet Nam Special Police Force 00:18:07.86 00:08:00.00 00:26:07.86 185
    67 BRAZIL COT 00:10:14.86 00:03:30.00 00:13:44.86 182
    68 SAUDI ARABIA Tuwaiq Team 00:12:00.87 00:03:40.00 00:15:40.87 180
    69 KENYA Executive Protection Unit Kenya- Ministry of Interior 00:19:34.62 00:02:30.00 00:22:04.62 178
    70 ECUADOR GIR POLICIA NACIONAL 00:11:15.66 00:03:20.00 00:14:35.66 170
    71 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES RAK POLICE 00:22:27.34 00:02:00.00 00:24:27.34 169
    72 ALBANIA Albania State Police Special Forces Unit RENEA 00:19:26.80 00:05:40.00 00:25:06.80 166
    73 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES sharjah swat team-B 00:15:22.50 00:00:10.00 00:15:32.50 157
    74 KENYA RRT KENYA POLICE 00:18:00.29 00:09:00.00 00:27:00.29 154
    75 JORDAN King Abdullah the 2nd Special Forces Command Team (Warrior Team) 00:20:18.04 00:06:40.00 00:26:58.04 144
    76 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES Dubai Police Academy A 00:21:55.60 00:08:00.00 00:29:55.60 144
    77 KAZAKHSTAN TOMIRIS 00:24:08.80 00:03:20.00 00:27:28.80 141
    78 ECUADOR GRUPO DE OPERACIONES ESPECIALES GOE 00:18:55.57 00:07:50.00 00:26:45.57 137
    79 ARGENTINA Gendarmeria Nacional ALACRAN 00:12:22.41 00:08:30.00 00:20:52.41 132
    80 PAKISTAN Special security unit SWAT POLICE 00:18:12.47 00:09:30.00 00:27:42.47 129
    81 PANAMA Servicio Nacional de Fronteras 00:19:38.86 00:18:50.00 00:38:28.86 129
    82 COLOMBIA POLICIA NACIONAL DE COLOMBIA COMAND0S JUNGLA 00:13:01.15 00:06:30.00 00:19:31.15 128
    83 ARMENIA Alfa Force 00:19:00.63 00:16:00.00 00:35:00.63 125
    84 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NYPD EMERGENCY SERVICE UNIT 00:13:42.82 00:03:50.00 00:17:32.82 120
    85 COLOMBIA TEAM GRATE 00:13:26.14 00:05:00.00 00:18:26.14 120
    86 SOUTH KOREA Korea National Police SOU 00:11:50.34 00:05:30.00 00:17:20.34 114
    87 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES Police College - Ministry of Interior A 00:15:22.13 00:04:10.00 00:19:32.13 107
    88 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES Fujairah police 00:15:13.69 00:08:50.00 00:24:03.69 107
    89 COLOMBIA TEAM GOER 00:21:35.74 00:11:00.00 00:32:35.74 104
    90 BRUNEI PASUKAN GERAK KHAS 1 00:15:14.72 00:09:40.00 00:24:54.72 98
    91 BAHAMAS royal bahamas police force s.w.a.t team 00:08:45.75 00:12:10.00 00:20:55.75 86
    92 BRAZIL GRT Sao Paulo 00:17:05.56 00:13:30.00 00:30:35.56 61
    93 PAKISTAN PUNJAB POLICE PAKISTAN 00:17:11.86 00:11:10.00 00:28:21.86 55
    94 BRAZIL BOPE PMPA 00:17:35.53 00:13:50.00 00:31:25.53 48
    95 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES Police College - Ministry of Interior B 00:10:01.52 00:09:10.00 00:19:11.52 44
    96 BRUNEI PASUKAN GERAK KHAS 2 00:17:03.34 00:14:20.00 00:31:23.34 42
    97 NORTHERN IRELAND Headquarters Mobile Support Unit 00:16:28.25 00:17:00.00 00:33:28.25 38
    98 BRAZIL GRT Sao Paulo Feminine 00:27:03.42 00:13:30.00 00:40:33.42 37
    99 GUYANA Guyana Police Force SWAT Unit 00:16:06.06 00:25:40.00 00:41:46.06 30
    100 PERU POLICIA NACIONAL DEL PERU 00:15:53.36 00:21:40.00 00:37:33.36 29
    101 ETHIOPIA EFP SWAT Team 00:28:23.42 00:30:20.00 00:58:43.42 22
    102 NEPAL Nepal Police STF 00:15:35.83 00:35:00.00 00:50:35.83 15
    103 TAJIKSTAN special purpose police team 00:17:23.63 00:39:50.00 00:57:13.63 14

    edit: Conveniently, other than Day 5, the order they participate in the events always has China Team B (who placed 1st overall) right next to the NYPD, so you'll only have to skip forward like a minute to see the other team. If you wanna see the contrast across all the events, here's the links:

    Day 1 - Assault Event (start at 3:49:57, order is NYPD -> China Team B--also has the extra detail that apparently Trump signed an executive order to allow them to go???)
    Day 2 - Tactical (start at 3:50:19, order is China Team B -> NYPD--this is the event from in the OP)
    Day 3 - Officer Rescue (start at 8:47:44, order is China Team B -> NYPD)
    Day 4 - Tower Assault (start at 19:35, order is NYPD -> China Team B)
    Day 5 - Obstacle Course: NYPD (2:42:22, video is a bit glitched out so missing first 30 seconds), China Team B (starts at 11:36:14)

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    remind me to never fuck around in Kazakhstan

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    does anyone happen to know why Kazakhstan is so strong at this and the like? Prob tangential, but I'm reminded of how Kazakhstan consistently produces Olympic medallists in combat sports like boxing and wrestling.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago*

    the difference in fitness on display between the NYPD and Team B in the obstacle course is staggering. NYPD just waddling about as if they were elementary schoolers on a playground (and then DNFed less than a quarter into the overall track lmao) while watching Team B's performance made my core hurt.

    also the Emirati commentator went hard for Team B's run lol

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    But at what cost?
    Had this happened before USAID got cut, then this event would have led to several thinkpieces about how it's actually good American police is incompetent and that this is proof of China being totalitarian.

    You know who would have had some great stuff to write about this? 2016 Trump. The current gen just doesn't have the sauce, but you know Moist Donny would have some comment about trump-anguish look at them! Chyna is beating us! You hate to say it, but look how they run, we can't run like that. Not anymore! I could, when I was younger, people would tell me I was the greatest runner they ever saw. But nowadays no one runs like that anymore. Except the Chinese

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