Fucking Hell. Like the Nazis burning their Records.

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[–] 248 points 2 years ago (9 children)

JFC...

"Hold on guys, we need to hold up on doing our Totally Legit and Properly Legal thing until we can get on a comms system that is properly hidden from all investigation..."

MAGA: YEAH! THE GOOD GUYS WON!

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  • [–] 124 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Their conception of morality is exactly backwards.

    They first consider if the person aligns with their in-group. If so, then whatever they do (so long as it doesn't directly have a negative impact on themselves) is by nature good.

    Obversely, if a person is a member of a group that is not aligned with their tribe then any action taken is inherently wicked and detrimental to society.

    They don't judge morality by the action, they judge it by the actor.

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    [–] 145 points 2 years ago (32 children)

    we shouldn't have records systems not subject to FOIA

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  • [–] 95 points 2 years ago (28 children)

    We shouldn't have a majority of voters in the U.S choosing a Nazi, but here we are.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Plurality* the majority of registered voters did not vote, voted for harris, or voted 3rd party.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Not voting and voting 3rd party is support for Donald, but whatever makes you sleep better at night

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Practically speaking, they let Trump win. But that doesn't mean they actually like Trump or approve of what he's doing. Imagining that everyone who didn't vote for Harris is a die-hard Trumper just leads to despair, which benefits Trump.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

    They knew Elon was up Trump’s butt before the election and we all knew he was going to be doing exactly this. Even the conservatives knew, he literally told them.

    So yea, they fucking did choose him, just not officially and he shouldn’t have this much power, and even if it was official he’s ignoring all the laws but the base doesn’t care because they are stupid wastes of the gift of life.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    This is only obvious because you didn't escape the news cycle.

    There were a shocking number of people that didn't even know Biden dropped out. Don't underestimate how out of touch people can be before making an important decision

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Being willfuly ignorant and astoundingly stupid is not an excuse. If they were ok with that before then they earned it all the same. My sympathy for them is deep in the negatives.

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  • [–] 126 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    If Elon Musk is a government official it means you can sue him personally if you got banned from Twitter for violating your first ammendment rights to free speech.

    Same with Trump and Truth social.

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    [–] 85 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    How exactly is there such a thing as a records system not subject to FOIA?

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The article says that the administration seems to be claiming the executive order where they changed the name of United States Digital Service to United States DOGE Service allows them to make the sweeping changes they are making. This is of course ludicrously beyond the pale when it comes to data security violations involved in taking control of data managed by other agencies and getting involved in their staffing. It's a smokescreen for autocracy.

    The claim in this particular instance is that they are saying the executive order redefined the reporting structure of the department. Where previously they reported to the Office of Management and Budget, where everything is subject to FOIA requests in the short term, they claim their USDS reports to the White House Chief of Staff and therefore is shielded from FOIA during the current administration. We can theoretically get the data later (I'm sure they'll be very responsible with chain of custody on such important data 🙄) but it will be 4 years later, when no one cares because we're in the trenches dealing with the long term consequences of what's happening right now. So, it is subject to FOIA, yes. But they're making up stories and betting the courts won't dare to challenge them.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago

    But they're making up stories and betting the courts won't dare to challenge them.

    No, it's worse than that. They know the Supreme Court will rule on their side no matter how ludicrous the reasoning is. See: the Dobbs decision.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Pen, paper, a trash can, and a lighter

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Even paper records are supposed to be saved.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Am I nuts or during his first term wasn’t there a story about Trump literally eating a piece of paper after he read it??

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    [–] 83 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

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    [–] 36 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    Maybe his yes-men will start using Discord instead lol.

    Better question: why aren't they using X, the thing that Elon is advertising as the Everything App?

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Reminds me of the dorkwad who leaked military(?) secrets to his friends on discord a couple years ago. I think he was about their age at the time too, which tracks.

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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago*

    BuT hEr EmAiLS

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I was thinking this earlier: can't we just bombard DOGE/executive branch with FOIA requests?

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    All goverment records are subject to FOIA by default. It's an opt-out system.

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  • No need to burn records when so many have simply accepted their content being removed from visibility without reason or accountability in this day in age.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Well if the Republican packed courts get to decide it will probably stand. Even though it is total bullshit.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Slack is extremely insecure. I can't believe they were using it to begin with

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