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Donald Trump has said that Palestinians have “no alternative” but to leave Gaza due to the devastation left by Israel’s war on Hamas, in effect endorsing ethnic cleansing of the territory over the opposition of Palestinians and the neighbouring countries.

Speaking as he prepared to host Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, on Tuesday, Trump repeated the suggestion that Gaza’s population should be relocated to Jordan and Egypt – something both countries have firmly rejected.

Trump claimed Palestinians would “love to leave Gaza”, telling reporters: “I would think that they would be thrilled.”

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Well, maybe Israelis should leave Palestinians country instead.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

As long as trump gets a new golf course and hotel, I don't think he really cares.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

You break it, you buy it. Let's move the Israeli officials to Gaza and let the Palestina citizens live in Jerusalem. ^/s

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

they started the war and they lost? why should israel make the concession?

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

In 1940, the Nazis' plan was to relocate all Jews to Madagascar.
Just 2 years later, they started exterminating them systematically.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Population transfers aren’t unheard of. In Greece/Turkey, Italians from eastern Adriatic, German from Prussia and Silesia, Pakistan/India millions of people moved.

This Holocaust comparison is completely dishonest and betrays any knowledge of how it happened. Used in this context, it’s Holocaust relativism at best and likely antisemitic.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Americans making this about Trump vs Kamala is getting really really annoying. I mean, we get it, you are pissed off at each other. We've read the same arguments dozens of times already, and at this point it is getting extremely tired. It sucks the oxygen out of every conversation. Is this what the discourse is going to be around Palestine and Israel the next four years?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago

Lol you think there's gonna be a Palestine in 4 years...

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 hours ago (8 children)

The amount of hatred against phantom leftists that on the one hand lost the Dems the vote and on the other were too weak to have their demands considered is crazy.

No, these people didn't lose you the vote. They don't even exist in this ambivalent form. It was everyday citizens that heard Democrats push the same racist border talking points Trump spewed last election and went "Hm, if even the Dems say this is a problem, I'll vote the party that talked about how evil Migrants were for decades, the GOP". It's people tired of increasingly struggling to make ends meet and the Dems saying everything will stay the same, while Trump promised them change. We know that he just means destroying the last remnants of social security nets for poor people and everything that stands in the way for oligarchs making kaijulllian dollars. But people are stupid and desperate. Why can't the Democratic party be held to a higher standard than whatever this is?

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 hours ago (18 children)

Accelerationism has made things worse for everyone. Now we have a US president who has declared his intention to ethnically cleanse the Gaza Strip of Palestinians. If you want things to get better then you have to act in a way that is useful to that end. That means voting for parties that are to the left of fascists and that have a chance of winning. In the US, that's the Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

This is not a particularly helpful message for the time being since the election is past and won't be for a while at best.
This is more a wish on what could have been and leaves little room for current discourse when this is a dead end topic.

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