When they do not return the grocery cart to the cart corral.
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I doubt you can judge someone as bad based off that
EDIT: I'm gonna go with better terms here: Not responsible enough and ignorant, I still don't believe someone can be considered bad as a person for this.
There are two main reasons you wouldn't return carts to a cart return location:
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Fuck them people
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My time is worth more than this
At the very least the person is inconsiderate, and worst a complete psychopath. Both are not great signs, and all the ones between are also not positive aspects.
You'd think something that small wouldn't be much of an indication on a person's overall nature, but it's nearly always the little things that add up to the whole thing.
Yes. How one thinks of/treats hired help is a big clue.
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It's actually a great indicator as to their view of the social contract and obligations to others.
I find the people who judge others based on cart return status are the real assholes.
Yeah I mean, I have seen people do that countless times at the walmart near my house for example, I feel like that's just calling a very high portion of the population to be bad people unfairly.
Okay but....
There's really no reason not to unless you just give zero shits about the damage a loose cart can do.
That's exactly the kind of sign you want: it's a person who thinks "it won't affect me because I'm leaving, so it's not my problem."
Actually as I was explaining to another person, unfortunately, there is a reason.
I am living in Tampa, Florida, the nearby walmart to my house, has a huge parking lot, but a car corral near the entrance and ONE on a huge damn parking lot.
The thing is, while I am not against returning carts when possible in anyway, what can I do if I park my car all the way on the other side on the parking lot and not near the cart corrosal? And the reason I park there is because it's one of the few parking spots available in a busy day? I am sorry but in such cases, people will just leave the carts on the side and leave with their car.
Not to mention, the damn sun here, it gets absolutely hot here at times, even I don't see myself walking halfway to the other part of the parking lot just to leave a cart when I already walked all the way from the entrance carrying all of my groceries, I don't see myself returning in that case.
Again we need to think in practical real-life scenario, so not only should people start returning carts, stores that don't have enough cart returning points in parking lots especially, should increase them.
I am not saying I don't return carts because that actually doesn't apply to me, atleast lately, as I have been mainly ordering stuff online mostly.
I do also want to make it clear, I am in no way giving justifications for those who make these basic mistakes without a genuine reason, I don't ever see myself not returning a cart when there is indeed a fairly nearby cart corrosal, and unfortunately, there are people who won't return their cars even if they have a nearby car corral, and i'm not arguing for them!
Yeah... this sounds like someone who is making excuses for their bad behavior instead of owning their mistake and correcting it.
Yeah I already made myself clear, I don't even do groccery shoppings in-person anymore, but Im leaving this there now 🤷
I've crossed a parking lot and a street in the snow to return it before. If I pushed it there I'm getting it back. Simple as.
Do you think it's fair to think that just because you are able to, others can too? I've been living in Canada before moving to florida, opposite weather here, extremely hot, I try to stay cool as much as possible, it's good that you "crossed a parking lot at a street" (assuming that is long distance, don't extactly understand the meaning here), but I am not you man, different people, scenarios, circumstances.
I know people are going to downvote this for me lol, again I ain't justifying for those who actually don't return when there is actually a cart corral nearby, but I am not trying to justify my own actions or argue for those who make this mistake without a genuine reason wantedly, in-fact as I''ve mentioned in several other comments in this thread, I do online shopping mostly these days, so this does not even apply to me.
I am simply trying to discuss from another not so popular perspective here in this thread.
I am also wondering if people have different definitions of what "bad" could be, because to me, this is more about lack of responsibility and ignorance when you are able to return a cart, but you still don't. If I saw someone doing this without a genuine reason like I have stated before, I don't think that'd still make them a bad as a person, I'd consider them not so responsible and kindly ask them to return it.
If they're physically able to push the cart somewhere they should be able to return it. Bar some edge cases I don't see why someone wouldn't return the cart.
I think you have stricter definition of bad and a looser definition of acceptable reasons. For me "not responsible" is bad, like a minute amount but still in the bad zone, and tough weather and distance isn't enough of a reason to not return the cart.
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Not to mention, the damn sun here, it gets absolutely hot here at times, even I don't see myself walking halfway to the other part of the parking lot just to leave a cart when I already walked all the way from the entrance carrying all of my groceries, I don't see myself returning in that case.
Lost me here, nope, nooooope nope nope nope. The weather is the least justifiable excuse -- Someone has to walk all that way to return that cart in the hot sun if you don't. If anything, making someone else do it is worse because of that weather.
I also saw you throwing out "but they have employees who do that" in another part of the thread. You wouldn't throw trash on the ground instead of walking it to a can just because a place has a janitor, I'm sure. It's exactly the same logic, and the reason you wouldn't ruin a janitor's day is the same reason you shouldn't ruin a cart collector's day.
I get that your local shop sucks for only having one corral. I really, truly do. But you know what I do when my closest store has practices I can't deal with? I don't make someone else clean up after me, I take my money elsewhere.
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I actually took the five minutes to look at all 10 Walmart stores in Tampa on Google Earth, and I can see more than one cart corral from space... How are you missing them in person?
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Someone sounds like they are projecting...
There's two possible scenarios
- you think your time is more valuable than others, thus making you an asshole
- you simply don't give a fuck about inconveniencing others, again making you an asshole
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I'd say it's conditional. At a certain point, it's on the business themselves. For example, a giant parking lot with one or two cart returns only, in a front corner.
A massive sprawling Walmart parking lot with only one return, and I had to park really far away, and it's super busy and trying to get the cart to the return requires going through multiple rows? I'm a goodie two shoes who will clean up after others, and tries to improve places... but I've got limits with time, effort, and desire to deal with crowds of people in parking lots.
If they have good placement though, then yes, it's absolutely on the individual.
Unless you have a medical reason for not being able to walk to the front to return it, you're still an asshole if you don't.
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"You can easily judge a person's character by how they treats those who can do nothing for them."
... or something really close to that. I'm too lazy to look up the actual quote right now.
If they're mean to waiters, cashiers, janitors, etc.
Additionally, whether they think someone has money, influential friends, etc determines whether or not they treat a person well.
Everyone can be a friend when it's easy and convenient. It's during the bad times, when they suffer and it's not so easy to keep cool, that their true values or lack of come to light.
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Being unable to admit they are wrong or don't know something. I feel like it's one of those traits that snowballs into someone coming off as obnoxious and elitist
God, reading all these comments while baked in a hammock was a trip. I highly recommend the cart saga.
I'd say it's when they get angry when you tell them the impact their behavior is having on you, instead of actually trying to have a discussion and sort the problem out.
Or they get angry with you for enforcing your boundries.
Or they gaslight you about your boundaries..
My personal favorite is when they gaslight you about whose “fault” it was. Failing to recognize that boundaries were only enforced because of decisions they made.
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Not to bring Trump into everything, but yeah... Trump supporters. Bonus level of shittiness if they have a maga hat.
How often and long they twirl their mustache.
This is not a dead giveaway as it will take some time and observations but, how often they react to adversity by blaming other people.
Reminder, if everywhere you go smells like dog doo, maybe check under your shoe.
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"I call them how I see them."
"I'm just brutally honest."
"I'm just telling it like it is."
These phrases are used exclusively by rude, obnoxious, condescending assholes trying to justify being shitty to other people for no reason.
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