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63 cruise ships owned by Carnival Corporation released more toxic sulfur gasses than all the cars in Europe, study says (www.businessinsider.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

cruise ships are so ridiculously bad for society and the environment, it's completely ridiculous. The insane air pollution, affecting the air quality of the cities they visit, tourists that walk around a city without supporting the local gastronomy and shops, underpaid staff from developing countries, that spend most of their time onboard,...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if these ships were squeaky clean, I don't understand the appeal of cruises. The environmental impact seals the deal for me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I love going on cruises, but if there's one reason I won't it's the environmental impact.

Honestly we should consider any ship running on bunker fuel to be an active military threat.

Those ships are going to be a significant part of the multiple Katrina-level events I expect to hit Florida in the next 15 years.

Is it okay to accept missile launches against the continental United States as long as the weapon is real slow?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Genuinely curious, what do you like about going on cruises?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'd rather not effectively try to sell people on cruises, but a balcony on the ocean is pretty awesome. Once you're on the ship it tends to be lower stress than typical traveling. And most importantly, no cars. Fuck cars.

You can probably accomplish a lot of the same just by going with a good group of friends to a non-cruise destination. Maybe the people I went with was the biggest part of the experience.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We’re going to need a shitload of orcas for this…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

And when their powers combine, they form megaorca, eater of cruise ships.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

don't worry, i'm using paper straws /s

sorry, cruise ships suck.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

And the element cobalt is used to reduce or remove the sulphide in the process but don't pay attention to that, it's the manufacturing of batteries thats killing all the children...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if people start blowing them up?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Then there would be fewer of them, which is objectively better for all life on this planet. Seems fine tbh.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ, why aren't they banned yet?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Old people love them

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cruise ships AND cars are bad.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

But imagine you give up your car for the environment and your impact is less than a millionth of a single cruise ship. What's the fucking point if we can't stop the big fuckers?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

And this is AFTER the sulphur reduction measures? LOL. Anyhow sulphur creates aerosol effect & cools the atmosphere. It will exacerbate after we phase that out too.