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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago

Are boycotts illegal? In this case I doubt there was an organized attempt, just some companies making individual business decisions. But even if Twitter can prove there was a boycott, is there a law against that?

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You know you've fucked up when even Nestlé doesn't want to work with you...

Obligatory Fuck Nesté

[–] [email protected] 3 points 58 minutes ago

When people go we may use child slaves in our supply chain, steal and ruin water supplies, and bribe medical professionals to get discourage breastfeeding, but you're too fucked up for us to work with then you know you've fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 hours ago

Throwing a temper tantrum because no-one wants to play with you. What a child!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

In a sane world, this lawsuit would be laughed out of court.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It's harder to laugh it out of court when the plaintiff is in the government himself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

There's gotta be serious repercussions for this insane narcissist-autocratic behaviour. USA you're not just embarrassing, but a liability.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 hours ago

Nothing says you believe in free market competition more, than suing a another private business, trying to force them to give you money

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 hours ago

No better way to get people who used to voluntarily give you money to give you more money than threatening them.

[–] [email protected] 168 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe asking advertisers to 'go fuck yourselves' isn't such a bright idea, fuckwit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You just know that's going to be exhibit 1 for the defense.

Fucking fascist Nazi man baby doesn't like when advertisers do what he tells them, and then continues to do so when he realizes that was a bad idea.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Reminds me of the guy who was accused by his gf of impregnating her, then refusing to support the child. Went through everything: the lawyers, friends and family who questioned his manhood and unwilling ess to take responsibility for the child, harassment, threats from her friends, etc. finally ended up in court in front of a judge, where he calmly produced a letter from a doctor that had performed a vasectomy on him well before the child could possibly have been conceived, took the win and walked out.

I would pay to watch this rich spoilt man child have to eat his literal words. I'm sure it's screenshotted all over the internet, but his ego won't let him see the truth.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

You can also have friends if you just pay mercenaries to kidnap them from the street at gunpoint. Many many great friends at any time.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 hours ago

I didn't know Citizens United gave companies forced speech.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

All the defense has to do is play the clip of him openly telling advertisers not to advertise and he'll get laughed out of court.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 hours ago

In an actual court? In Trumps america?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Most politicians are bought for less than a million. The guy has hundreds of billions. I imagine he can buy a few judges along the way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Possibly, but none of those bought judges matter unless it ends up in their specific court. That's why they've been trying to install as many of their own as possible.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

The lesson here is to never start advertising on that platform. You’re less likely to be sued by Musk if you never start advertising in the first place. Advertising on his platform is an unnecessary risk for your business:

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 hours ago

Preach. Never do business with a professional troll.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

He must think it's like the old dealership laws. Once you enter into an agreement, you can't exit.

Advertise once, advertise forever!

[–] [email protected] 117 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I’m honestly blown away that Nestle stopped or reduced advertising. It seems like twitter is exactly the home for such a terrible company.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Nestle has an extremely safe, risk-averse marketing strategy. In part due to their various scandals, they try really hard to be family friendly and boring.

That said, they are not worse than other food and beverage conglomerates.

  1. child labor: mars & others were also implicated. These companies were most likely unaware of the child labor being used to harvest cocoa. The way it works is there are wholesalers in Africa who buy cocoa from processing facilities who buy fresh cocoa pods from local farms. These wholesalers advertised themselves as being child-labore-free. The farms they buy from were using child labor. This is a problem with capitalism exploiting people in the global south, causing perverse incentives, and with companies having limited insight into the full depth of their supply chains.

  2. water is not a human right: The nestle water exec said the quiet part out loud. But, no beverage company believes water is a human right - they just aren't stupid enough to say that on camera. If they did think it was a human right, they'd be working to ensure universal access to clean water rather than bottling it and shipping it around the world while limiting water access at their extraction points and polluting the water near their factories. Look at what coca cola is doing in mexico - rampant water pollution such that in factory towns. Coke is the only safe drink for folks because the water is contaminated. Nestle is bad, but no worse than coca cola.

  3. infant formula scandal: this occurred in the 1970s and was obviously awful. Every major multinational food and beverage conglomerate has stories like this if you look hard enough - this just happens to be a fucked up series of events that got some major media play.

People online scapegoat Nestle, but continue to buy electronics and clothing made with child labor, tree nuts/soda/and other products known to be harmful to watersheds, and many other products from companies which harm people in the global south. This isn't meant to defend nestle, but to remind everyone that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Nestle is not anywhere close to an uniquely evil company. Not even in its own industry.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

Thank you for putting it into perspective a little bit. I still won't buy Nestlé stuff but at least now I'll feel guilty buying anything else lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Water is a human right. Quoth Article 11, (1) ICESCR:

The States Parties to the present Covenant recognize the right of everyone to an adequate standard of living for himself and his family, including adequate food, clothing and housing, and to the continuous improvement of living conditions. The States Parties will take appropriate steps to ensure the realization of this right, recognizing to this effect the essential importance of international co-operation based on free consent.

"food" here can be safely assumed to include "water". "Everyone" means "also people who can't afford shoelaces". There's exactly one country in the world which didn't ratify the ICESCR and it's the US.


Regarding "uniquely evil": Yeah I'm definitely boycotting Chiquita (United Fruit) and Bacardi harder, both are still, effectively, whining about having their slave plantations expropriated. Both aren't exactly hard to do their bananas are more expensive than no-brand organic ones over here, and Bacardi, well there’s plenty of good rum, Bacardi ain't one of them. If you ever make a Cuba Libre with Bacardi I shall explode into tirades.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Not if there's fewer there to see ads. They're still a business with a bottom line, even if what they do is terrible.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 hours ago

Yea, fair point.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

The company might be terrible, but most of their buyers are normal people who either don't know what brands belong to them, or don't care enough to carefully investigate everything they buy. And those normal people are the ones the ads need to reach. If they leave twitter, what's the point of advertising there?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

Yea, I think it makes sense for them to stop if they are getting a return on their investment.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 hours ago

How is this even a thing? Is a bank run considered collusion? If the platform no longer offers the audience I want to reach then I should be able to stop advertising on it. It just happens that the audience of may companies at once left the company. Who is even entertaining this lawsuit?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm torn about disliking this douchebag and liking that Nestlé is getting sued...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

On the scale of who is fucking up the world more, I’d have to award the trophy to Leon. Certainly fuck Nestle, but won’t someone please rid us of this meddlesome billionaire?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Elon is a twat and a menace for sure, but Nestlé have employed business strategies that literally killed infants and caused malnourishment...they are a completely different league of evil, far far worse than what Elon has done so far.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

Key part of that sentence is "so far"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

He should sue everyone that left X!!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Musk knows no bottom, cause he is the bottom.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Tbf every body needs an asshole. Except the us, which seems to have two.