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[–] [email protected] 19 points 23 hours ago (26 children)

Switching from WhatsApp to any other messaging service isn't a realistic option for quite many places. I'd be more than willing to switch but of all the people in my contacts (including my entire customer base) there's like 3 people using Signal but every single one of them has WhatsApp. Even the 60+ year olds.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Same (Brazil), Whatsapp is pretty much a requirement and I hate that I'm forced to give Meta my information by using their shitty app.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

And yet it gets repeated (and upvoted) in every thread.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago

I’ve been on Signal for a while now. Have a bunch of groups but iMessage works with everyone.

It’s been a year and a half here on Lemmy. I still spend a lot of time on Reddit, but won’t comment there anymore.

I don’t WANT a Twitter replacement as it’s really only for celebs and idgaf.

I actually see enough value to pay for YT premium (kids complain incessantly about ads).

Friendica doesn’t seem to have an iOS app, and there’s a critical mass issue with wanting to connect with people that I know in real life.

I’m trying to get my Pixelfed feed to be with checking, and trying to be a regular poster, but it’s still REALLY sparse, and none of these offer the endless meme-video-clip scroll that my wife will have to have before switching away from Insta.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, the switch from YouTube to PeerTube has not worked for me so far. I can't find a decent instance (not full of right-wing/conspiracy content) with interesting stuff that also allows me to make an account.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes finding the right instance on peertube is a nightmare — and also the general lack of quality content, or subtitling, which makes it as good as useless for deaf people like me.

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Signal is not Fediverse! Element/Matrix is!

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Element/matrix aren't part of the fediverse, either. It doesn't speak AP.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (7 children)

Is there an app for Loops.video?

Edit: Go to https://loops.video/ Make an account, and you should get an email afterwards to download the app from TestFlight or an Android APK.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Loops.video isn't accepting new users atm. Even if it was, I got in on early signup and I have next to zero functionality out of it rn. Just informing the curious masses

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

For the avid readers out there, bookwyrm is a fantastic alternative to goodreads.

https://joinbookwyrm.com/

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

In my case I deleted instagram, instead of whatsapp I'm going to Matrix (I'll see who I get there), I changed Reddit for Lemmy and I'm trying to find an active Peertube instance that allows for account creation, live, and uploading videos

[–] [email protected] 168 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (40 children)

Signal isn't federated ^[1][2][3.1]^; it's decentralized ^[1][2][3.2]^. Though, for all practical purposes, I would generally argue that it's centralized.

References

  1. Signal-Server. signalapp. Github. Published: 2025-01-31T15:34:14.000Z. Accessed: 2025-02-01T09:24Z. https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server.
    • This is the source code for the server that Signal uses.
  2. "Signal (software)". Wikipedia. Published: 2025-01-06T09:34Z. Accessed: 2025-02-1T09:30Z. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software).
    • ¶"Architecture". ¶"Servers".

      Signal relies on centralized servers that are maintained by Signal Messenger. In addition to routing Signal's messages, the servers also facilitate the discovery of contacts who are also registered Signal users and the automatic exchange of users' public keys. […]

  3. "Reflections: The ecosystem is moving". moxie0. Signal Blog. Published: 2016-05-10. Accessed: 2025-02-01T09:40Z. https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/.
    1. ¶5. to ¶"Stuck in time". ¶3-6

      One of the controversial things we did with Signal early on was to build it as an unfederated service. Nothing about any of the protocols we’ve developed requires centralization; it’s entirely possible to build a federated Signal Protocol-based messenger, but I no longer believe that it is possible to build a competitive federated messenger at all. […] [interoperable protocols] [have] taken us pretty far, but it’s undeniable that once you federate your protocol, it becomes very difficult to make changes. And right now, at the application level, things that stand still don’t fare very well in a world where the ecosystem is moving. […] Early on, I thought we’d federate Signal once its velocity had subsided. Now I realize that things will probably never slow down, and if anything the velocity of the entire landscape seems to be steadily increasing.

    2. ¶"Stuck in time". "Federation and control". ¶6.

      An open source infrastructure for a centralized network now provides almost the same level of control as federated protocols, without giving up the ability to adapt. If a centralized provider with an open source infrastructure ever makes horrible changes, those that disagree have the software they need to run their own alternative instead. It may not be as beautiful as federation, but at this point it seems that it will have to do.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

Woo! Made one of first steps of switching today!

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago

A federated social fitness app(like Strava) would be cool

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