Trying Plasma for a bit to see how green the grass is as a longtime Gnome user. The last time I ran Plasma on my main desktop was version 5.11, I think? It's been a while...

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[–] 111 points 2 years ago (22 children)

gnome user getting confused by customization, seems about right lol.

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  • [–] [S] 67 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (14 children)

    Ironically most of my customization so far has been to make it more like Gnome lmao

    Still trying to figure out how to make workspaces/virtual desktops more...usable.

    Overall though it's amazing how solid Plasma is now, it sure as hell isn't the buggy mess it used to be in the earlier Plasma 5 days.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    For me, i made it so pressing Super+ switches to that workspace.

    Super+Tab to toggle overview (Super+W by default)

    And a hot corner, which is set to trigger almost instantly, to toggle overview.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    To be fair customization is a good thing, the problem is it's too easy to accidentally get into too advanced settings. It feels like the settings most people want 95% of the time are burried in the same place as the niche settings. The gnome tweaks app often gets criticized because it contains basic settings, but I think it could be beneficial for plasma to have the same thing. Only keep the base level user settings the the settings, and put all the customization stuff in a separate tweaks app. The simple by default, powerful when needed moto is true to some extent, but the simple by default part could be much improved and a lot more intuitive

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    As a new linux user I was overwhelmed by plasma and all the choices. I much prefer an OS and DE that feels like it isn't there and gets out of my way. It was all a bit too distracting, so I went back to Gnome like DEs (Cinnamon and now Cosmic).

    Something like your suggestion, with basic settings first and then a deeper layer or toggle for advanced settings would have kept me on the platform longer.

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  • [–] 104 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Plasma is so good nowadays compared to some years ago. I remember suffering a lot in those early times too.

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    [–] 56 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What is this place?

    Windows minus Microsoft BS.

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (16 children)

    I have a colleague, who's super deep down the Linux rabbit hole and he always ran GNOME. I was never quite sure, if he actually prefers it, or if he just does not care, because he's doing most things in a terminal anyways.

    Recently, our IT department made a change, which accidentally switched him over to KDE. He could easily switch back, but he's been checking KDE out instead, and yeah, it's been super interesting.

    He definitely has some of that GNOME workflow baked into him. For example, under GNOME you can use Alt + the key above Tab to switch between windows of the same application. In KDE, that shortcut exists, but the default keybinding isn't exactly usable.
    Another minor complaint was, for example, that using Meta + arrow-keys doesn't move windows between screens automatically when you press it repeatedly. That's a separate shortcut under KDE, with Meta + Shift + arrow-keys.
    EDIT: Apparently, I misunderstood him, his complaint was that Meta + Shift + arrow-keys moves the window between screens in a weird way. It just picks some kind of order for the screens and then goes between them as previous/next, even though you press the left/right arrow keys. There even is the more appropriate shortcut key for left/right, but it's just not the default binding.
    Meta + arrow-keys does work for moving windows between screens.


    He's aware that he may need to relearn some of his workflow, but yeah, will have to see, if he sticks to it. His emotions are nigh impossible to read, unfortunately. πŸ™ƒ

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    [–] 46 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Welcome, make yourself at home! Want to put files on your desktop? You can do that here! We'll still make fun of you for doing it, but you can do it.

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I will never not up doot an Over the Hedge meme, so underrated in both meme ability and as a movie lmao

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    I just installed plasma and I love it. I have no experience with it before this year.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I have been a GNOME 2 and then MATE user for over a decade. Now I use KDE since that’s what SteamOS comes with and it’s fine.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I used to be a huge fan of Gnome, back before they switched to whatever this mobile-first nonsense design is. Looks like something you would see on a tablet designed for children. They destroyed Gnome!

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I use Cinnamon on my desktop to avoid the whole "modern" Gnome problem. It's far better. But it's Plasma all the way on my laptop baby!

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    I'm tired of fighting GNOME 3 to make it feel like GNOME 2. My next reinstall is going to be KDE. I just want a traditional desktop metaphor. 😩 Next major overhaul Kubuntu here I come!

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    Welcome back to the land of the living usable UI

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    I've never been a real plasma user (played around with it sure but never more than a week or something) and have been using GNOME since ~3.10 the whole workflow is just ingrained in my mind and simply works. So I'd be happy to hear how you're doing on Plasma even if I don't see myself switching anytime soon.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    KDE + Arch is such a great combo. I'm using it on a 10yo laptop (though admittedly it's a rather beefy lappy for it's gen, a 2014 ZBook g2, with 32 GB ram)

    KDE can be slow on lower spec devices but it is so great to use and it was trivially easy to alter keyboard shortcuts, default application, startup behavior, etc.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I installed cosmic the other day. Uninstalled it like 5 minutes later but I enjoyed its vibe. I am excited to see it come out of alpha

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    [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    i hadn't used kde (on my own systems) in over twenty years. i downloaded a bunch of ISOs over the last month or so, mainly looking to see what installs easiest and runs best on some old systems here. among them were several with plasma 6.

    one of those kinda 'stuck' in my head and i had to go back through several until i 'found' it again. been messing around with it now for a couple weeks trying to figure out what i'd want for a 'working' setup. might just end up switching one of my 'working' desktops over.

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