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[–] 246 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

Journalists: It appeared to be a South African karate chop of some kind

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    [–] 215 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    It has been maddening how corporate media has been trying to tell us it was anything but a Nazi salute. I'm reminded of the Star Trek episode Chain of Command Part II, "There are four lights!"

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    [+] 64 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)
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    [–] 54 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    He claimed it was a "my heart goes out to you" sentiment.

    But the "my heart goes out to you" gesture is palm-up...

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I mean it just doesn't matter what it was "supposed" to be. How many times have we seen things that are sooort of close to the nazi salute so people are like "hey better not do that." And this is stuff that's like basically just anything holding your hand in the air. This was straight up the salute lol I mean there's no two ways about it. The question is what the intention was. And if it wasn't intended to be some sort of nod to Nazism or fascism or something, why in the flying fuck would you do it?! lol I mean everyone in the literal world knows it would prolly be a bad idea to do anything like that but the self proclaimed Uber genius, smartest man in the world, ultra mega mastermind, God gamer musk... It just slips his mind?

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    [–] 41 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Everyone knows it was a Nazi Salute.

    Nazi's just denying it because 1) they are not quite at the point where they can sieg heil while marching down mainstreet just yet and 2) because it amuses them to see the left try to desperately convince them it was a nazi salute.

    All your desperate justification, facts, evidence, etc?

    It wont make a nazi not a nazi.

    but it will amuse them, and exhaust you.

    Its time to stop using words against nazis, and go back to using forms are communication that carry a more physical finality to their arguments.

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    [+] 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)
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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    He's basically an edge lord 4-channer, Nazi saluting to: "own the libs" is sort of on brand.

    I don't think he's a dyed in the wool Führer-lover. I do think he's a hyper insecure, spoiled, man-child with enough ties to the far right to idolize "anti-social behavior" and think he's the hottest shit ever to pull off such a "based" stunt.

    A poser; doing loser shit opening the door for someone/something much worse because his idiot brain thinks he's being cute.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago*

    I don’t think he’s a dyed in the wool Führer-lover.

    No, of course not. He's a dyed-in-the-wool Afrikkkaner. It's a Dutch/English strain of Fascism far more in line with the American brand than the German/Nordic Central European brand.

    A poser; doing loser shit opening the door for someone/something much worse because his idiot brain thinks he’s being cute.

    A professional sycophant and corrupt corporate hack who has made a cool trillion selling exploding cars, crashing spaceships, and non-existent subway systems. He's anything but a loser, as he's perfectly hacked the modern capitalist system.

    The Nazi pastiche he's adopted is intended to keep those super-sized government contracts and cheap private loans coming. Same reason he pays teams of pro-gamers to run his video game accounts and throws the biggest, most debauched orgies in Silicon Valley or Austin, TX. Same reason he nearly killed himself and Peter Thiel doing burnouts in a brand new McLauren.

    TrueAnon Podcast has a great three-part series "The Lamest Show On Earth" that takes a deep dive into Musk's background. Does a great job of laying out who this guy is and how he's successfully grifted his way to the pinnacle of the western business ziggurat. The most that can be said of him is that he loves to dominate other people. The explicit flavor of fascism is secondary.

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Wrote up a summary months ago (with reputable sources!) and warned about Nazis too and was permabanned from Lemmy news and politics for it.

    Idk man, you can tell people stuff, but it's so hard for them to access what's real right now. There's a concerted online effort to suppress factual info.

    https://lemmy.world/comment/13431373

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago

    The fact this is a debatable thing is the shame of humanity.

    You know what's even worst? ADL.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    They are not the baddies because of a Nazi salute. They are baddies because of shitload of other things. Which I'm starting to think the Nazi solute is a distraction from. I see so many posts about the salute and the "Gulf of America" and about assigned-at-conception gendering, and almost nothing about the executive orders that actually have implications.

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm starting to think that doing enough Ketamine to take down a racehorse just before giving a speech to the entire world's media, was probably not a good idea...

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