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[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 days ago (35 children)

Denying the self-reported identity of a marginalized person is absolutely bigoted, and those demographics come directly from self-reported polling data.

Unless you are simply unaware that they conduct their own demographic polling, dismissing those demographics as 'not real' is the same thing as accusing those users of lying about being trans

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Never, under any circumstances, use the phrase "you people" unless you're in the mood for everyone in the universe to act like you just lost the argument.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Solid advice. It can be completely benign, but people will still pounce on it for an "easy win".

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

You people make some good points.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (11 children)

Imagine not being able to tell the difference between "I don't believe half of their users are trans" and "I don't believe in their users being trans".

Demographics isn't transphobic. Using trans people as a shield from criticism is.

EDIT: I looked over the October survey. The graphs aren't the cleanest but the data is there: 15% of all asked identified as trans, with another 9% as trans non-binary. A sample size of 600 to the 2300 monthly users is also really good, so the data ought to be very representative.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago

I wonder where those demographics came from.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

This is part of why the hard left, or at least the current version of it, has basically lost me. I firmly support the right of trans and queer folks to exist in the same relative peace and safety as everyone else, but in todays lefty political spaces you’re not allowed to disagree with what a trans person says without being transphobic. You can’t criticize a trans person for their shit takes or bad behavior without being transphobic. I even had a years long friendship end because raising the issue of a clear mental health episode involving paranoid delusion unrelated to their transition or transness made me a “dangerous transphobe”. This person had of course been hospitalized for self harm and major mental heath issues prior, and a desire to keep them safe was “transphobic”

Transphobia is bad. Trans exceptionalism is also bad.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Meanwhile, Lemmy Devs are saying the "transgender topic" is promoted by "the bourgeoisie", and how "biological men" shouldn't be competing in "women's sports"

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/25213024

(also, who the fuck says "biological men" in the transgender context, its called transgender women)

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

(also, who the fuck says "biological men" in the transgender context, its called transgender women)

Conservatives and other right wing that's who. That's why you hear tankie leadership saying it.

Tankies are anti-lgbtq at their core. Anything to simp for totalitarians.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To be fair, hexbear did ban those devs for those comments.

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