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Proton is dead (for me). Let's collect and discuss alternatives! ✊🛡 (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Uhg. How much longer until it's more viable to self host...

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yo so question for y'alls: what's your opinion on using custom domain (for portability) vs masked emails?

Rn I have my main emails on my personal domain, and then I have masked emails going through [email protected] for more anonymity + segmenting (err i mean just being able to disable a certain address individually) . But watching all this reminded me that if I decided to move away from fastmail, i'm much more locked-in this way. Do y'alls use a custom domain for masked email as well? The one thing I don't like about that is that it'd be so easy to connect multiple accounts based on domain, so anonymity is probably kinda broken.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've been doing research into this because I want to degoogle. Looking for hosted and secure Mail, Calendar, Drive... maybe docs if possible. I don't mind paying as long as I'm a customer and not a product to be sold.

My short list was: Mailbox.org, Zoho, and Notion.

Then there are the services I don't understand as much because I don't really want to self host or step into server maintenance... NextCloud, OwnCloud, LibreCloud, OnlyOffice. Maybe someone could straighten me out with those if I'm off base.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Thank fuck I didn't get that subscription, I was looking into getting a secure mail service. I engaged with people calling proton a CIA honeypot, investigating what was up with the rumors and I was about to jump into bed with proton.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've been very happy with disroot.org, but you have to do your own encryption (I use Thunderbird).

I think I pay $10 per year for 5 GB, but they have a free plan.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I was mulling moving everything from Google to Proton. Guess I'll keep my money for now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Thanks for this post. Any alternatives for Drive specifically?? Including self-hosted options

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Immich if you want really good photo backup. Nextcloud if you want a full Drive replacement

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (15 children)

So literally one guy can change your entire network lifestyle?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So literally one guy can change your entire network lifestyle?

Seriously? You're going to question people on loyalty when they find out the person in charge of not selling their data to the highest bidder is an oligarch wanna-be?

Hell yes. If you give me red flags in how a company I need to ultimately trust is run/staffed, I will find a better solution.