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[–] 128 points 3 years ago (7 children)

...and now they're in a shelter in place because of *checks notes unexpected rain, unusual climate change related weather.

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  • [–] 45 points 3 years ago (24 children)

    attack the big corporations instead

    That's the problem though. How do you even do that?

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  • [–] 46 points 3 years ago (14 children)

    Like this

    On December 10th, at around 6 p.m., 200 environmental activists suddenly stormed and “invaded” a Lafarge company cement factory of La Malle in Bouc-Bel-Air in the Bouches-du-Rhone, Provence-Alpes-Côte d’Azur region in Southern France. Infrastructure at the plant was reportedly attacked using a variety of methods, including: sabotage of incinerators and electrical systems and devices; cable cutting; bags of cement cut open and spilled; damage to vehicles and construction equipment; damaged windows; and graffiti spraying.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    Yep, don't remember who it was that I heard say something along the line of "If climate activists were really convinced they want to end the system that they can't deny is profitable to them, car dealerships wouldn't be able to have SUVs on their lot as they would be set on fire during the night, airports would get vandalized, gas stations blown up..."

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago

    They are quite serious. you may not agree with their tactics. none the less they are the ones putting themselves out there.

    I do agree with you on some points. when I lived in Berlin their were people making gentrification difficult by placing small firelighters under the wheels of expensive cars on the streets.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    Which would make no news, because it can be hidden away (as few people are affected by it), while landing the protestors in jail for ages due to destruction of private property.

    In conclusion, unless it's a mass action by a significant percentage of the population, it would have little effect.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    If I burn down an SUV, will this create less or more pollution than if it's driven and totalled after 80000km?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    If it means companies stop making them, in the long run it's a win for you.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    The only thing that is happening will be the company being able to sell another one. There should be tax incentives to not drive SUVs like taxing by weight and motor power. The SUV was initially loved because of tax exemptions for 'light trucks' in the USA.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Does this actually do anything though? Insurance will just pay out and they'll maybe have slightly higher rates.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    No. Such insurances are mandatory by law; in extremis, a government agency would force an insurance to take the risk.

    What will sooner happen is the factory installing higher and thoughervfences, install security cameras, keep dogs on th grounds and hire security.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I've never heard of insurance for large scale projects which can lose tends of thousands to millions of dollars per operations day lost. That's normally eaten by the company's savings or loans. Maybe it's different in France.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Idiotic.

    1. All that shit is insured

    2. The people doing this, if they get caught get massive fines and jail.

    3. Nothing changes


    France has a democratic system. You want to make actual change, get involved in politics.

    This highschool vandalism bullshit accomplishes nothing, except make environmentalist look like lunatics.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    If it's done enough, projects get delayed, profit is lost and insurance costs sky rocket.

    Real politics is something you get invited to, not involved in.

    No matter what climate activist do, they get shit on by people like you because big oil tells you what they do is bad. Stop being part of the problem.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago* (2 children)
  • [–] 27 points 3 years ago

    All those SUVs and people cant drive off road... Also quite telling what kind of people are going to burning men in what kind of cars, in regards to its supposed spirit and culture...

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  • [–] 25 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I watched with no audio, but was there something that made it appropriate for the ranger to pull a gun on those protesters?

    I don't know that blocking a road like an asshat merits deadly force.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago

    Holy shit those YouTube comments are disgusting. Fuck these burner fucks and their $100k glamping vans.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    Real, "Are we the baddies?", moment.

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  • [+] -20 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (9 children)
  • [–] 27 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    The problem is that then the people are never heard. I used to think this way too but they have a point, if they aren't literally in your face, you're going to walk right past them. We've all seen people on the sidewalk handing out flyers trying to get the word out - how many of us stop to read it? <10%? <1%?

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  • [+] -5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It's a no win scenario no matter what, that's what I mean. If they get in your face people don't like them and we get these arguments. If they protest over there in the protest spot they get ignored. If no one protests then nothing gets done. There are no valid options. I don't like it, but I don't blame them either for being frustrated that no one cares

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  • [+] -6 points 3 years ago

    You don’t need to take and read their flyer to get the message… I can agree with their message, and still be pissed off that they’re causing a disruption in my day. These kinds of people only hurt the cause.

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  • [+] -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)