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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (10 children)

They didn’t have everything figured out back then. For one, they bullied Spock for what we could only describe today as his neurodiversity.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There will never come a time in which we have everything figured out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

excuse me, i have a degree in bullshit. We have figured out everything. 1+1=2. The rest is left as an exercise for the reader.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Yes but that doesn’t mean we should never look back and see how far we’ve come, just as we look forward and see how far we have to go.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And there will be things that are being created today that's considered progressive that in 20 years, will be considered as missing the mark.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

McCoy called Spock "green-blooded" on multiple occasions - and once a "hobgoblin". And I would call the Vulcan penchant for logic a cultural trait, not neurodiversity.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You should see the episode when a woman body swapped with Kirk, and how the Enterprise crew suspected something was wrong

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Kind of yeah, but Gene Roddenberry used allegories like the half black and half white dudes who hated each other - which took more effort than having characters just walk around in the present saying, "Wow, look at all the social injustice."

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Yeah he was real subtle. Not full of preachy monologues at all.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

cough mark of gideon cough

Hey, i'm an old fart and guess how many times i heard people say that exact same shit about TNG? The pussy version of trek, nothing like its predecessor, all they do is talk about their emotions!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

to say nothing of Star Trek IV

"Double dumbass on you!"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm an old fart too. I had a friend who said all they did on TNG was sit up straight and say, "Engage."

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because that's what you had to do to get past the executives and the censors in the 1960s.

Just like how "Last Train to Clarksville" is about Vietnam.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Just like how "Last Train to Clarksville" is about Vietnam.

TIL. That is a really subtle reference (at least from the perspective of somebody born a couple of decades after the fact, anyway).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, but the executives were terrified of any and all conflict. That's why so many shows of that era are incredibly bland.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (21 children)

They were even more upfront about it in TOS for some issues too.

I remember many instances where they say "We have women in our crew in the future." It's not like DISCO flaunted around saying "we don't hate gay people in this ship."

Like I understand that DISCO isn't everybody's favorite, and sure it has some issues, but all the flak it got for being "woke" and "preachy" was weird to me.

Part of Kirk's whole thing was preachy speeches, and Picard had many moments too.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

I quite agree STD wasn’t everyone’s favourite, in any case it wasn’t mine, although I really tried. But whining about it being woke was just stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Holy Motherforkin Shirtballs! A The Good Place meme in the wild!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I remember this exact conversation in the show, too.

"It's like: Who died and put Aristotle in charge?"

Points to board "Plato."

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Hey now hey now!

It's a cashless classless society, it's about economic class justice, too!

That part's just more in the background.

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