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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"baroness" - how long are British people going to cope with this medieval shit?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A majority of people want away with it, just not the people in power. A law getting rid of the house of lords would have to go through, you guessed it, the house of lords.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

eh, every time there's a referendum it gets plurality of support. A bunch of people like the pomp and circumstance. And although I disagre I can understand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its also the cost. It would leave us with the same politicians with the same power.

So involves lots of changing of the way our system functions with little real benifit.

Unlike above syggest HOL dose not have the power to stop it. Only delay now. But every law we have is based ob a constitution that passes piwer from the king to parliment.

So for a majority to form. An actual replacemnt needs to be agreed. And thats even harder to work out.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In her case, baroness is the title she got when appointed to that house. She isn't a hereditary baroness, which still exist.

The real problem with the House of Lords is that it's packed with political appointees - like Meyer - and quite a few were appointed after losing their elected position in disgrace.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In her case, baroness is the title she got when appointed to that house.

Which is precisely the medieval shit I was referring to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

OK, I misunderstood you. Would calling them "senator" be better?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

If it was an electable Senate with for example the same representation for Scotland and Wales as it was for England, yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

TIL that “House of Lords” and “House of Commons” are still a thing. Wtf, UK?!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

You're on a UK politics community lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Here, we've yet to get around to abolishing hereditary peerages in the House of Lords.

Current government intends to get that done.

Until then, though there have been lifetime appointees to the HoL for a while, and the hereditary system somewhat eased in other respects, it means if the right seeds are believed to have got into your mother's womb prior to your conception, you don't merely inherit whatever land and titles your ancestors arrayed about themselves, you bag a seat in the upper house of a bicameral legislature until you pop your clogs, whereupon your heir slides in.

Unlikely to be similar for the hereditary Monarch as Head of State, nor as Head of the Established Church, though there may be some movement on the Spiritual Lords (about 2/3rds of the Anglican bishops & archbishops also get a seat in the House of Lords).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

between labour and the tories it's shameful that the uk is just doubling down on all this racist nazi level shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

we should bring back guillotining the rich