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[–] 116 points 2 years ago (3 children)

A partial fingerprint and DNA recovered during the search have so far not yielded matches when compared against law enforcement databases, according to a law enforcement official

This got rushed....

Meanwhile the NYPD specifically and law enforcement in general has a massive backlog of untested rape kits they can't even quantify because they're spread out in hospital closets all over the place without even a comprehensive index.

The fact that NYPD is fast tracking this is exactly why everyone hates law enforcement.

There's a different set of rules for the wealthy than everyone else, and a different set of punishments.

Anytime a wealthy person is the criminal it takes years (if ever) to see a court date. If the victim is a wealthy person everything else gets thrown out the window.

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  • [–] 46 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And if it's a corporation killing people, their environment, or their way of life, then it's maybe a small fine already baked into their budget and a promise to "do better".

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    If the guy had raped the CEO first, do you think they'd suddenly fly through all those rape kits?

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No, they'd skip everyone in the backlog and do the wealthy person's....

    The difference isn't the crime, it's the social standing of the victim.

    Like, there's been other murders in NYC, which would have also left this kind of evidence, they don't check those either.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I guess I was thinking those rape kits might help solve that hypothetical case but I suppose not.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    No worries, when they're brought up a common complaint is there could very likely be a fraction of rapists as there are victims.

    Because serial rapists are a thing, and the open knowledge that cops don't care about them unless the victim is high social standing means they're likely to keep doing it.

    But that still doesn't get cops to look at a backlog in those few cases to see if there's matches. People that habitually prey on others know that if you target the rich, the cops actually try. So with a high profile victim, it's more likely to be staged as random crime of opportunity as to really be random.

    If you look back on serial killers/rapists that were caught, it's pretty common for them to be caught because one of their victims was from "middle class" or higher, and the vast majority of victims were from disadvantaged communities.

    So there's a lot going on with the topic.

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    [+] 76 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    i wish we could do more for this guy.

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Working off of a tip, police stopped a person traveling by bus and recovered a suppressor and a number of false IDs, one of the officials added.

    Snitches get stitches

    But also, if this is the guy, the moment they release his name it's gonna become memorialized

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    A GoFundMe for legal defense would break the interenet, and I gotta feel like this guy knows that...

    Also, for anyone wondering why he'd ditch a gun and save a suppressor, it's because suppressors are federally registered. In many states a gun can show up and be connected to a crime, and they can just say it was sold to someone and they do t remember/know the buyers name.

    A silencer has accountability and would need a paper trail showing a transfer of ownership.

    Edit:

    Apparently other sources say he had the fun too:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-questioned-pennsylvania-similar-gun-used-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shoo-rcna183443

    But still, it's crazy we dont have a federal gun registry and not all states have them either.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't have a wealth of gun knowledge, but I read at least one report right after the shooting naming the type of pistol and why suspect chose it (because it had a long barrel that worked as a suppressor without having to attach/buy one). It even stated that because of the obscurity of the pistol it would 1) narrow down the amount of people owning one 2) would likely be someone with a good knowledge of firearms and well thoughout plan.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    There's the "Welrod" which is WW2 era and at least one modern replica produced today.

    Those are designed to be as quite as possible, and require each round to be manually loaded by rotating the back of the gun. Like, its comparable maybe even quieter than shutting a car door.

    But it definitely wasn't what was used in the video.

    Also, I just saw another article that says he still had the gun too.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-questioned-pennsylvania-similar-gun-used-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shoo-rcna183443

    So, slightly conflicting info from different sources on what he had

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    But I don't want the gubernment to have a registry showing my five guns that I constantly describe in detail to everyone and photograph regularly for lib-owning Christmas cards on social media. If there were a registry, they could use that information to send more of their government-manned guns against me, a single person with fewer hands than I have guns. Can't you see that this unreasonably risky lapse in information is all about MY safety???

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

    The handwritten manifesto found on the person of the man detained in Altoona criticized health care companies for putting profits above care, according to a senior law enforcement official.

    The man who was detained at McDonald’s showed the police the same fake New Jersey identification that the man believed to be the gunman presented when he checked into a hostel on the Upper West Side of Manhattan on Nov. 24, a senior law enforcement official said.

    Oh shit it’s him.

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/09/nyregion/uhc-ceo-murder-suspect?referringSource=articleShare

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If he didn't ditch the gun, fake ID's, and a smoking gun manifesto, this guy isn't that bright.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Either a copy cat or a diversion IMHO

    Watch him having a strong albi like being at work that AM

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  • [+] 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    He’s going to be villified badly by the media.

    They’ll probably give him a mental health diagnosis so they can argue he wasn’t sane. It would be too dangerous for them to accept him as sane.

    Kind of like Kacyznski’s political diagnosis of “schizophrenia” after he killed the CEO of a logging company. Which was called a “political diagnosis” by his post-trial prisoner psychiatrist.

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I hope the snitch gets found out too

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  • [+] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)
  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Nah man, zero tolerance for snitching. Period.

    To elaborate:

    1. cops are allowed to lie to you if they think it'll help their investigation. You can't trust a word they say.

    2. You have no idea how information you give will be used or who it will be used against.

    3. mind your own fucking business

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Why keep all that evidence on him?

    Do everything like a pro but botch last leg?

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  • [+] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
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    [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Dang. If I were to do something like this I would totally not show up anywhere I wouldn't usually go for 2 weeks.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    All he needs to do is run for President.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    With the stakes being what they've now become, does it matter if they truly found the guy or can prove it was him?

    Most importantly who will accept any alternative truth posed about the situation?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Welp, they announced the suspect. Luigi Mangione, 26. Here is his possible twitter. The eyebrows seem to match 😔

    https://twitter.com/PepMangione

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  • [+] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Wow that was quick. His fb and linkin tree are still up for anyone curious

    https://www.facebook.com/luigi.mangione.2

    https://linktr.ee/lnmangione

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    I don't know if a healthcare CEO assassin eating at McDonalds lines up.

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