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[–] 100 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (41 children)

Let’s not cherrypick scenarios to try and pretend Linux is easier than Windows. Most normal people are nervous interacting with a GUI pop-up that gives them two options, never mind putting them into a terminal window where they could seriously fuck up their machine. What about clicking the download link on a webpage, clicking next a few times and having them software on your machine, compared to having to build something from GitHub (how many people here have never had to do that?).

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    This applies to pretty much all "Linux good, Win/MacOS bad" memes. I just assume that people either aren't really serious about them and it's just tongue in cheek, or they don't have any contact with regular people.

    I used to work as a(n assistant to the) sysadmin and the things I got called over never stopped to amaze. For instance, there was a case when software was updated on the work machines and I got called because some lady couldn't use Adobe Acrobat. "It is asking me something, I don't know what". I come over and it's just a TOS Accept/Decline window.

    Some people do not understand computers to an extent that they can lock up in a state of confusion when a button has been moved 100px in any direction from its usual position.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Most normal people are nervous interacting with a GUI pop-up that gives them two options, never mind putting them into a terminal window where they could seriously fuck up their machine

    Maybe this is a problem that we should be addressing, rather than just making technology more of a black box, and raising generations of people who have no fucking concept of how any of it works.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Let's also not conflate "ease" with historical behavior.

    Taking previous experience out of the equation, it is easier to type apt upgrade and reboot to update your entire system than to click through 300 times in the system and multiple apps with reboots.

    That is a fact.

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    [–] 57 points 2 years ago (36 children)

    No restart require on Linux is a joke, right? Because I get updates that require restarts as often as I get them on Windows when updating Mint.

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  • [–] 67 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    Unless you're updating the kernel itself, there is little chance you actually need to reboot your machine. Just restarting whatever service or application you're using should do the trick.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Just following the update manager instructions

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    You do you, it can't hurt to reboot and work on a fresh restart. But if for some reasons you need to keep your machine up, you'll know it is less of a problem than on windows typically

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    [–] 53 points 2 years ago (20 children)

    I haven't had a DLL issue in Windows in like 20 years.

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    [–] 51 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    This was made by someone who has never used either

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    Eh, Windows complaints tend to get pretty hyperbolic much of the time. It’s slow and annoying but I’ve always worked with it

    But the description of the Linux update process matches my experience with mint, pretty much. I even use the GUI update utility because it will put a little icon in the bottom corner of the screen. It’s quick even if I’m using a program that’s going an update, and if the kernel gets updated it’s just like β€œhey remember to reboot buddy!”

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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago* (17 children)

    Open terminal

    See whether the app is in my distro's repos, flathub, or snapcraft (It's not)

    Go on the internet, search up the app's name

    Download the AppImage (might be a virus)

    LibFuse2 is not installed (fuck me)

    Install LibFuse2

    Install Gearlever to integrate AppImage into my desktop

    I can finally launch the app

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Fuck, I hate AppImages so much. Never heard of gearlever, thanks i hope this helps a lot.

    Edit: Ok Gearlever is pretty great! Now I can finally open Heroic normally. That pissed me off for so long.

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago* (12 children)

    somepackage requires otherpackage version >10.1.79

    otherpackage is already at latest version

    Have fun compiling it yourself and messing up what is managed by the package manager and what's not. And don't forget that the update might break some other package along the way

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    If your distro maintainer's do a good job, that situation never happen's.

    Or just use gentoo where that problem doensn't exist at all.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    Don't use apostrophes wherever you see an "s" at the end of a word. If you're unsure about whether or not to use an apostrophe, just don't. Because statistically, there are far fewer cases where you need 'em than there are cases where you don't. Plus if you missed the apostrophe where it should be, people will just assume you didn't bother to type it or it was a typo. Whereas if you do type it where it shouldn't be, it's a clear case of "this person doesn't know how apostrophes work".

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

    Edge (Microsoft browser) thinks the Microsoft Teams exe installer FROM MICROSOFT SERVER is malware, no joke.

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    When you make fun of something that really isn't an issue it just makes your side look worse. Windows has real problems, but installing shit ain't it.

    My dad can install anything on windows with clicks, he can't do shit with a terminal.

    I'm a power user and love GUIs. I'll use git desktop all day everyday, instead of typing shit in a command line. It's one button press vs typing paths and hoping you don't misspell shit.

    I don't really get the whole command line fetish, there are no extra points in life for doing things the harder way.

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I can't remember the last time I got a DLL error on my Windows laptop, honestly. I don't think that's ever happened on my current computer.

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    You're forgetting winget. It's actually really good.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago*

    What the actual fuck are you smoking?

    At least update this meme to the 2010s if you won't go to the 2020s

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Been using Linux off and on since 2003-ish. I remember the days of having to compile applications and having to download various dependencies. Linux now is so streamlined and easy. Minus gentoo.

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    IDK, but I more often had issues with installing apps to Linux than to Windows, usually dependency-hell related ones, but once I had trouble enabling snap on Linux Mint.

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I don't know about all the arguing and snark, but... I've been using Ubuntu (laugh it up) on my work laptop for the last 3ish years, and the vast majority of the time it really is "click install updates. wait 2 minutes. ok every program on your computer is up to date, just don't forget to restart Firefox". Can't think of a time where updating sucked. Sometimes I even go through the terminal just because it makes me feel cool to be a hackerman.

    I dread updating my windows pc at home. Cuts into my WoW time too much.

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    I don't like windows either, but updating with Winget in terminal works pretty good. Not as good as with Linux, but better than downloading every app via browser.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Chocolatey is the best option I've found for this on Windows:

    Chocolatey was created by Rob Reynolds in 2011 with the simple goal of offering a universal package manager for Windows. Chocolatey is an open source project that provides developers and admins alike a better way to manage Windows software.

    You can install & uninstall software from the command line and update everything installed through it with one command.

    It's not a real package manager of course. It can't update the operating system, and Windows applications aren't built for modularity and shared libraries the way Linux applications are. But it does automate application management like nothing else. I highly recommend this if you use Windows.

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