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I joined lemmy after reddit API changes, as many people did. At first, it was amazing. The community felt so alive, so friendly and welcoming. Obviously, the activity wasn't exactly as large as it was on reddit, but I was patient, I knew more stuff was coming, and I was excited for it.

Unfortunately, this period would not last long. It would not last even a week until I got into my first argument with a tankie. I saw them and argued with them from time to time on reddit, but people there usually saw right through the bullshit and downvoted them to oblivion.

Here, it was so much different. They were all upvoted and supported by hordes more tankies. Constant genocide denial in China, support for Ruzzia, and somehow, for North Korea.

In retrospect, I should have left then, abandoned lemmy then and there, not really return to reddit, just leave both alone. I would have saved myself some sanity.

But I didn't, which I regret. I wasted my time here, constantly seeing this bullshit, and sometimes, I didn't even have the motivation or energy to argue with them.

The amount of genocide denial, dictatorship praising, and insane arguments I've seen in a month blew past the amount of this shit I've seen on reddit in a fucking decade.

I don't see the future in this, none whatsoever. Lemmy will be here, but it will always stay a tankie hellhole unless you block thousands of people and whole instances. And if you do, the tankies will always just migrate to other instances to keep spreading hate.

You guys are awesome. Keep doing what you are doing, but I am tired of this bullshit and I am done.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I find the tankies entertaining personally

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I don't think I've actually blocked any individual for a reason other than being an outright troll in the pure post-2-piss-off sense or a spambot.

The thing to remember with the extreme left or right is that they're about as credible as the drunk on the corner ranting and raving about aliens putting mind control chips in their breakfast cereal.

I've engaged with them a bit too much at length occasionally, particularly on former accounts, but often as not it's for the novelty of a freak show spectacle.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago

I would be more worried about ads, memes and the government propaganda you see on instances like lemmy.world and global feed

That for me is what is ruining lemmy experience more than anything else. There are many tankies but they are usually self limited to their own instances.

Lemmy seem to have inherited reddit mechanics which are shaped after marketing and mass media advertising. Home feed is predated by shitpost and news from mainstream media. Serious subs suitable for discussions have hard time surfacing and this creates a loop where shitty subs keep get more popular.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A quick look at your comment history indicates that you're quite toxic yourself and it's no wonder you attract so much opposition. Leaving may very well be the right choice here and a service to the whole platform.

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