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What is Cyberpunk?

Cyberpunk is a science-fiction sub-genre dealing with the integration of society and technology in dystopian settings. Often referred to as “low-life and high tech,” Cyberpunk stories deal with outsiders (punks) who fight against the oppressors in society (usually mega corporations that control everything) via technological means (cyber). If the punks aren’t actively fighting against a megacorp, they’re still dealing with living in a world completely dependent on high technology.

Cyberpunk characteristics include:

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What was the first cyberpunk video game you played? Were you playing the point & click adventure games back on DOS? Shadowrun on SNES? Deus Ex on PC? Or did you just recently discover this thing called "cyberpunk" with Cyberpunk 2077?

I'm curious how long everyone here has been into cyberpunk.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I think for me it was VA-11 HALL-A

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Deus Ex, on PS2. I can’t even remember if I finished or even enjoyed it. Later, I got it on PC and it’s been one of my favourite games ever since and fully got me into both cyberpunk and the immersive sim genre!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Speaking of immersive sims, how would you compare the original Deus Ex to System Shock 2? I feel like System Shock 2 probably pushed the genre further but I enjoyed the world of Deus Ex more for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

It’s been a long time since I played System Shock 2 but I have the same feeling as you. There’s something about the near future conspiracy stuff that just drags me in. Space stations are cool and all but I prefer the atmosphere of Deus Ex.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Remember Me was probably my first. Neo Paris was gorgeous and I still listen to the soundtrack.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember Me deserves a remake, the game got way too little recognition.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe improve the fighting and get rid of the zombie ghoul things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Remember Me is a really interesting game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

For me it was Cops 2170 I had a human sized rat policing the streets and ahooting up bad guys

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Neuro on c64. Don't remember much though. But deus ex on PC left a mark. One of the alltime favourites.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Shadowrun on the Sega Genesis. It's the more faithful rendition of the TTRPG to video game adaptation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't actually played either, but the Shadowrun game for Genesis does look more fun than the Shadowrun game for SNES. It's also crazy to me that they're two completely unrelated games when it was so common to just port the same game between those two systems at the time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The Sega Genesis version is fun and all, but it's very linear. Like, there's only one secular path you can take in the story. The only thing that sort-of makes it fun is how overpowered or underpowered you want your team to be, but the line is still straightforward. It's a very sandbox way of playing it.

The SNES Shadowrun had a lot more going for it and while some of the execution like how it handles the Matrix pales in comparison to the Genesis version, it still had that depth in it's story and pathway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pretty sure it was the SNES Shadowrun for me. I was already familiar with Shadowrun from books and the tabletop RPG and I got a Swedish copy of it because the english version wasn't available yet. I eventually got a used copy of the English version as well.

I did play Deus Ex at some point after and I had great time with it, but I don't think I ever played the second game for some reason.

I recall trying the OG Syndicate game at some point as well, but I'm pretty sure that well after I had exhausted the first 2 X-com games, and I was looking for more strategy stuff. No idea really when that was, but definetely after Shadowrun.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have you tried playing the Shadowrun game for Genesis? For someone with fond memories of the SNES game, I wonder how the Genesis game would compare.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

No, I didn't have a Genesis/Mega Drive and the only friend who had it never got the game either. I did look into playing it with an emulator, but never had the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Would Wasteland count as cyberpunk? It has nearly all the same tropes, but instead of being in a somewhat functional corpocratic dystopia, the dystopia is because it's post-apocalyptic.

If not, then the first cyberpunk thing I've played is Crusader: No Remorse. That one is definitely cyberpunk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

shadowrun genesis

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it counts, Shadowrun on Xbox 360, that remake multiplayer game.

If not, it was probably Deus Ex Human Revolution.

I didn’t really know about the cyberpunk genre until years later but DEHR was a blast.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There was a Shadowrun game on Xbox 360?? I might have to go look into that...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

People hateeddddd it lol. I really enjoyed it.

It was one of those games where you could play against bots offline but it was meant to be played online. There was no campaign or real story to it. And it was a first person shooter.

But I wasn’t aware of the original so I didn’t know what to expect like others.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So far? Cloud Punk.

Most games that claim to be cyberpunk don't really delve too much into the politics or do it in a really bad way.

Cyberpunk 2077 is based on a very ableist TTRPG, for example that claims that the more modifications you make to your body, the less 'human' you are and thus the more likely you are to get 'cyberpsychosis'. However, that isn't necessarily true and if it is those folks that get it should be taken care of in a medical sense. Also, 'humanness' is not synonymous with ethical or moral etc as much as folks like to believe it is.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

G-Police, 1997, PC.

I absolutely love and played the shit out of Deus Ex, but, technically, I played G Police first.

G-Police Lore / Setting

The year is 2097.

Following the exhaustion of all natural resources on Earth, an ensuing rapid militarization and colonization of the solar system's planets and moons, and a further devastating extra planetary war between large multi national coalitions...

... large megacorporations assumed outright control of most of these colonies, abolished the construction of capital class space vessels, and have forced the demilitarization of Earth's remaning nation states.

What remains of them is a collaborative police force, largely focused on localized peacekeeping, anti piracy and anti terrorist operations.

The G-Police.

...

You are brooding male noir protagonist, a veteran pilot of the the earlier interplanetary wars.

Flying for the G-Police is basically the only semi-lucrative job option you've got left.

But for you... there's also a personal motive.

Your sister flew for the G-Police too, a promising rookie with idealized notions of justice. She was rising fast, earning accomodations, even spoke of a potential lover.

But then she 'committed suicide', was apparently quite depressed and overstressed.

You don't buy that for a minute.

Somebody killed her, went to the trouble of covering it up, and you want to know who and why.

Now you've managed to obscure your identity while keeping your flying record intact, landing you a post in the G-Police, in the same unit your sister was in, determined to find the truth.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vbm6RICA8_4&pp=ygUOZyBwb2xpY2UgaW50cm8%3D

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pen and paper Shadowrun was my first and still main cyberpunk game. And I really haven't played it much.

I'm a fan of the genre in general but cyberpunk games tend to be expansive dialogue-driven RPGs that my middle-aged ass ain't got time for. It's a shame, I'd probably love the writing for Disco Elysium and Cyberpunk 2077, but if I've only got so many gaming hours in a week, imma likely spend it on a roguelite or action game instead for the excitement and dopamine. Just being real.

I did go on a nice Philip K Dick spree for a while and enjoy his stories. William Gibson was difficult when I first gave Neuromancer a read and I didn't look into him farther, but I'm probably due. Another backlog for the fire.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Crazy, I'm the exact opposite. My middle-aged ass doesn't have time for repetitive roguelite games with no sense of accomplishment. I actually prefer the linear gameplay where no matter how much (or little) I play in one sitting, I'm still further in the game than when I started. Although, I still prefer games with ~10-15 hours of gameplay. I don't have the time/patience for a 40+ hour epic RPG.

As for William Gibson, if you're willing to get back into it, I recommend The Peripheral. It's a more recent book (so Gibson has grown as an author) and it's a more modern take on the cyberpunk genre. Also, Amazon turned it into a tv series that lasted one season. They renewed it for a second but then decided it was too expensive and cancelled it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

My problem is I forget half of what was going on and lose all momentum. At least with like Darkest Dungeon or Vampire Survivors I get some progression between runs.

But yeah I'll check that out, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

About 18 years ago I played a Cyberpunk video game which was essentially a Diablo 2 clone. But for the life of me, I can't remember the name of it.

I've been playing the Cyberpunk 2020 pen & paper rpg for about 19 years and been running it as a GM for about 14 years.

Then came the Cyberpunk 2077 video game, which I loved, and shortly afterwards I started GMing the Cyberpunk:Red p&p rpg (still running it since on a weekly basis).

I also got into video games like Detroit: Become Human, Nobody wants to die and Observer: System Redux after Cyberpunk 2077.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

About 18 years ago I played a Cyberpunk video game which was essentially a Diablo 2 clone. But for the life of me, I can’t remember the name of it.

Sounds like a fun challenge! Could it have been Cybermercs: The Soldiers of the 22nd Century? Or maybe Restricted Area? I actually don't know, I just tried searching for cyberpunk-like diablo clones from ~2002. That's a tough one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It actually was Restricted Area, lol. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've had Nobody Wants To Die on my wishlist for awhile but can't decide if it's worth it. What'd you think of the game?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I enjoyed it quite a lot. The storytelling was great and so were the visuals. In case you'd love a Cyberpunk meets Batman: The animated series crossover, I'd say go for it! Plus there's different endings depending on some key choices.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Shadowrun origins but I didn't get as far in it as I should have. First finished was Transistor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@Hammerjack sadly didn't have to play any of those, but I played cyberpunk 2077. do you have any recommendations? since I'm getting to like the cyberpunk genre of games!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It really depends on what genre of games you like, can you give me any hints?

In general, if you like the first-person perspective action RPGs like Cyberpunk 2077 definitely check out Deus Ex: Human Revolution and its sequel Deus Ex: Mankind Divided. If you like 2d action RPGs, check out Dex.

If you like twin-stick shooters, check out Ruiner or The Ascent. I absolutely loved The Ascent.

If you like turn-based RPGs, check out Shadowrun: Dragonfall.

If you like point-and-click adventure games, check out VirtuaVerse or Technobabylon.

If you like walking simulators (first-person, no combat), check out Observer or maybe Nobody Wants To Die (which I haven't played yet).

If you like roguelikes, check out Akane or Black Future '88.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

@Hammerjack I play The As cent, I loved the way the world is built. I played it with my brother since we like co-op games. Still didn't finish it tho, but yes I lean more to action RPGs like cyberpunk 2077, thanks for the recommendations! 🙂

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I believe it was:

Street Fighter 2010: The Final Fight

from 1990 for the NES.

and if that's the game I'm thinking of, it is a pretty cool game.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

That game was so weird! I was always so confused why it was called Street Fighter when it was a 2d platformer in space.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Deus Ex, one of the best RPG's ever. Ashamed they kind of ran that IP down to the ground

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Probably SS2, but I feel like there might be something earlier

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