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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Funny how nuclear power plants are taboo, but building thousands of nuclear warheads all over the globe is no issue.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

Funny how building nuclear power plants that can only (if you have dipshits running them) kill a nearby city is taboo, but climate change that will kill everyone is acceptable to the moralists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)

Funny how whataboutism makes your audience defensive.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 20 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

Funny how being polite didn't convince you so now you're trying to sell that being mean is going to stop you. You were always useless.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The problem isn't that they exploded one time. The problem is that that one explosion is still happening and likely will be for quite a while.

On the other hand, modern rock exploding plant designs are so much better that it's very unlikely to repeat itself, so there's that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 44 minutes ago

I'm sure the other rock/liquid/gas burning plants have had no issues along their lifetime and had no hand in demonizing the "new" slowly exploding rock technology after extreme negligence let the one big one happen. /s

I'd take the band aid of nuclear in my backyard vs what we rely on now after learning all of the insider knowledge of someone who personally worked in energy generation that did all of this plus renewables almost their entire professional life.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Paraphrased but this is right.

And the people were taught to talk about the horrible nuclear accidents that killed a few but completely glance over the unimaginable millions perished in the name of oil, mustn't even mention the mass extinction events we launched with oil.

We even spread exaggerated bullshit about radiation mutation (wtf? thats superhero comic books fiction!!) and cancer rates (only one really), ignoring how much overwhelmingly more of the both we get from fossil fuel products.

We are like prehistoric people going extinct bcs of the tales how generations ago someone burned down their house so fire bad. Well, actually not like that - we are taking with us a lot of species & entire ecosystems too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's more like "Bob and Jim died in a fire a while ago, so everyone decided to put up with heaps of people dying to hypothermia and uncooked meat"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

The local undertaker family tells the story about Bob and Jim once a week to the whole village (attendance is mandatory).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

“Ted Kennedy killed more people than Three Mile Island” - Bumper sticker.

That’s said, I facepalm at Fukushima. And desperately want more modern systems

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

You're right to reject the logic behind that because it's nonsense. Its not making sense to them because they still presume some kind of good faith when it come to these sorts of things.

The reason we haven't built more nuclear power stations is because oil, gas and coal companies will make less money, if we build more nuclear power stations.

They have the means, the motive and they have a well recorded history of being that cartoonishly villainous. Nothing else makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago

It's crazy that Mr. Burns from the Simpsons was in nuclear and not coal or oil. Probably a product of the propaganda at the time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Three Mile Island and Chernobyl really did change things. Prior to those incidents there were plans to build over 50 more nuclear plants in place which got canceled as a result. Currently oil and gas industries will do all they can to keep nuclear from making a come back, but for a long time they didn't have to do shit thanks to those catastrophes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

They didn't have to but they did anyway.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

Not even a joke, that's a very concise way to put the argument.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Except the retard didn't just burn his house down, he burned thousands of people's houses down in such a way that nobody could ever live there again, and came very close to burning down the whole continent in the same way.

(I'm still in favour of spicy rock steam)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't nuclear energy like super safe and have killed incredibly few people compared to all the other energy sources?

Or are you talking about destilling the magic rocks very much and putting them in a bomb?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Exactly.

The whole clusterfuck of mishandled Chernobyl cleanup & everything there before and after only claimed a few lives (via direct radiation tissue damage or just accidents).

Compare that with the daily average of thousands of killed in various (ultimately) oil wars.

But we don't even get news about that.

But western propaganda sure showed us malformed babies & claimed it was from radiation - it turns out it was all bullshit, it was always a toxic chemical behind it (unregulated industries selling toxic shit by the tonnes - fertilisers, paints, even biological warfare).

We just take radiation super seriously and completely disregard toxic chemical pollution of eg industrial spillages. People just get to live in polluted areas and die sooner because of that. Instead of living for longer & with less health hazards but with a little radiation.

And lastly - burning coal released way more radiation into air than nuclear accidents.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Burning down your house doesn't poison people thousands of years later, so it's not a perfect analogy.

Plus we have magic mirrors and magic fans that do the same thing as the magic rocks just way cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

We had magic mirrors and magic fans for centuries tho.

Yet we decided to release way more poison and even way more radiation by mining and burning fossil fuels. We just poison larger areas than any nuclear disasters. And with fossil fuels people actually get cancer, and with toxic byproducts, mutations and birth defects.

People in polluted areas die sooner. Except around nuclear disasters sights - the air gets cleaner once all the people are thrown out.

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