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[–] 108 points 2 years ago (28 children)

One person was arguing that they shouldn’t be able to refuse to do “chores” in prison, but the things they do there are things like making license plates, furniture, and fighting wildfires. A bit far from mopping up and taking out the garbage.

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    [–] 71 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Oh it's worse than that. California voted to make more homeless people, expand the three strikes system by turning some misdemeanors into felonies, and voted itself a slave state to take advantage of all that new prison population.

    All that's left is to privatize the pipeline.

    But it's okay, they removed the defunct ban on same sex marriage so they're still progressive! Yay!

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    [–] 62 points 2 years ago (26 children)

    I know it has that reputation but I really don’t think California is the most progressive state. Maybe Oregon? Vermont? Not sure to be honest.

    It’s pretty much just basic liberals here. And lots of fascists but they hide out away from everyone else most of the time.

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  • [–] 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I also feel like people forget how fucking enormous California is. It's really just a few big liberal areas separated by a giant wasteland of racist rednecks that spans nearly the entirety of the United States from north to South in between. It's huge. If you start in San Diego and drive north for 12 hours you'll be....almost to the top of California. If you do that on the East coast you can drive through nine states.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    California has the second largest population of Republicans in the US after Texas.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    California also has the largest population of all states. A direct numerical comparison is disingenuous, a statistical comparison would be more valid.

    Of registered voters in California, about 25% are Republican. In Texas, 38% are Republican.

    https://independentvoterproject.org/voter-registration-by-state

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    [–] 60 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The American prison system is designed to make money. Prisons get paid based on how many people they house. Making sure people don't wind up in prison is literally the last thing the warden wants to do. Anybody thinking America is gonna change it's ways out of the goodness of its heart is fucking delusional.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I watched a video of a random streamer who ranted a bit about the elections. He had some great points, and he was basically saying what most people are thinking. He talked about voting and the people that refused to vote. He then added: how can you become president as a criminal but you are not able to vote as a criminal. And then continues with, he agrees that criminals shouldn't be able to vote, because they are criminals with bad intentions. Fucker, the system is designed that most people ARE criminals. You can go to jail because a copper doesn't like your face.

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  • [–] 57 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    California is the USA in a bottle. You got progressive cities, conservative suburbs, rural areas and industrial hotspots, poor folks as well as the obscenely rich. Ronald Reagan was Governor in California for 8 years before becoming the blueprint of conservative candidates for the presidency.

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    The only thing that pissed me off more than Trump winning, was seeing how many good Props failed, and bad ones passed.

    I'm glad we made LGBT marriage part of our constitution, but jesus christ the voting base here is NIMBYs, NeoLibs, and Conservatives.

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    [–] 42 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Don’t blame me! I voted Yes!

    The baffling thing is that the other side didn’t even file an argument against the measure in the voter guide… and it still lost!

    Like, if your side can’t even be bothered to come up with an argument for or against particular legislation, I’m voting with the other side, full stop.

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    [–] 38 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Why that bear don't have 2 heads?

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

    This is a spin on the truth. Slavery has never not been illegal always been legal per the US constitution, as long as the slaves are prisoners. We had a prop on it to disallow mandatory labor in prisons in California. We voted against it because Americans have a hard-on for punishment. Personally I think being caged is punishment enough, ESPECIALLY when you consider the sheer volume of for profit prisons in the US. Hurray, private business can keep doing slavery in the state -_-

    It has been and still is legal in federal law across the US

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    How is it a spin on the truth? Forced labor sounds a lot like slavery and they voted in favor of it. Just because some people justify slavery with a reason like "criminals deserve it!" or "but look at their skin color!" doesn't change that they're voting for slavery. Just because the criteria isn't directly skin color (80% of prisoners are not non-hispanic white... so its pretty much is still forced labor based on skin color) doesn't change it at all.

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Basically because we're the 4th largest economy in the world, and thus, billionaires also run this state.

    We also didn't get rent control adjustments, or a minimum wage hike. So yeah.

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The US is working exactly as planned

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And all because 1950s McCarthyism incepted America with a seed that may eventually destroy it long after the USSR’s dissolution

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    I thought the bear in their logo had two heads

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    California is not the most progressive state. It's just so big that it being progressive makes the news more.

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This was a result of election night that is underreported, but hugely telling and frustrating.

    All this noise about California being liberal, progressive, and the resistance to Trump. But they kept slavery in prison legal. And I think the people who are predicting prison "labor" will be used to replace migrant labor if mass deportation does happen have it right. And California had a chance to make that impossible and decided not to.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    I've seen this. Isn't it because of prisoner firefighters?

    Fucking wild

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Always enjoy your posts, ozma.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    This is why we need a "New California Republic", with rangers to protect the population, just don't listen those anti-mutties bigots...

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago*

    I've voted blue for decades, just so I can say I did the right thing: harm reduction.

    This nation's last, last, last chance to improve its course would have been to soundly reject the supply side, trickle down Reaganomics grift, but when they lied that YOU could be one of the rich ones one day, Americans giggled like schoolgirls and the former party of labor went full neoliberal to take the larger corporate bribes unions just couldn't match. That is when any hope for the US to become the benevolent nation it never was but claimed to want to be died.

    Citizens United was just a victory lap for the capitalists to piss on its decomposing corpse.

    Anyone who wants to claim this country was over a couple of Tuesdays ago, hasn't been paying attention.

    And it wasn't the Neonazi scum that killed it either, they just see opportunity in the cultural vacuum and chaos. Twas unchecked capitalist greed that killed the beast.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago*

    Some people think the language was confusing

    Prop 6 Eliminates Constitutional Provision Allowing Involuntary Servitude for Incarcerated Persons. Legislative Constitutional Amendment.

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