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[–] [email protected] 21 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Ha ha ha, yeah, sure. Bluesky won't defeat xitter, at best it'll just be the "next thing" once xitter finally finishes getting rid of most of its users, which I guess will take more than 4 years from now.

[–] blarth 3 points 13 hours ago

It’ll only defeat X if corporations and specifically media and sports entities start using it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (8 children)

The great thing about BlueSky is how under-the-radar its flown for the last few years. Virtually no advertising. No legions of bot accounts spamming with invites and generic attention baiting posts. No |>u33y N |3io blowing up my mentions. No enshittification, because its just a primitive clone of the original Bird Site.

The more popular it gets, the less likely that'll last. BlueSky won't defeat Twitter until it becomes Twitter.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand how those two things are distinct.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I guess they don't consider it bluesky defeating twitter if twitter is commiting suicide. Sounds like pedantry to me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)
[–] blarth 3 points 13 hours ago

Digg did commit suicide. I was there for it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

The key factor in Digg’s demise was a flawed design that was too easily abused by users. Digg had no controls over user verification, so individuals could game the system by creating multiple accounts to artificially inflate the number of votes for their own content. Because Digg displayed content in order of popularity, most visitors saw and voted only on content that was already popular. This system created a vicious cycle in which a small number of dedicated users could push their own content to the front page and thereby gain more followers, allowing them to more easily repeat the process. As Digg grew, so too did its problems related to power-hungry users cheating and gaining undue influence over content.

Sounds like the same problem that every centralized social media ecosystem suffers from. The big difference between Digg and Reddit was that Reddit successfully monetized the "push me to the front of the queue" algorithm rather than engineering around it.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 22 hours ago (11 children)

It should be Mastodon. This is the same shit with a different name

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Mastodon is more of a protocol than a single service. It succeeds/fails on those terms, in the same way the old Web1.0 protocols did. Which is to say, you can't enshitify a thousand micro-sites at once like you can enshittify one big site that's under central control. But you also can't do things like navigate, search, and socialize efficiently.

Mastodon is successful in large part because it isn't. When you let a single cartel of corporate psychos run a Mastodon account like they would a Twitter or Facebook, you end up with Truth Social (literally just a Mastodon branch instance).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago

ActivityPub is the protocol though. Mastodon is an implementation of the protocol.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

That's an interesting perspective. Do you think the same about lemmy? While also decentralized using the sameprotocol, it seems reasonably efficient to me. I'm from a small instance from my country, and the global content is easily available to me.

I just have a lot of trouble explaining how it works to people who aren't tech savy... this is what I consider the main issue withthe fediverse as a whole.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Bluesky is (in theory) federated, but I think you can't run your own server yet. We'll see if they keep their promise.

Its protocol has some improvements over ActivityPub, for example you can use a domain name you own as your username even if you're not hosting your own instance, and your user identity is portable in that case - you can move to a different instance but keep the same username.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

They took crypto bros VC money.

Do we really think they’ll allow mass federation without getting returns on their investment?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

There was a good explanation about why not mastodon the other day. It basically boils down to Bluesky is just an easier transition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, that's what I heard from my microblogging colleagues too. They tried Mastodon during the first wave of Twitter exodus, found it too frustrating/difficult, tried Bluesky and stuck with it ever since.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (9 children)

Or... or... hear me out... everyone comes to lemmy?

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Let's replace one proprietary service with another. It looks so good with its API wide open, like it's never getting enshittified.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

Bluesky is not proprietary, it's mit licensed and open source

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Born free 🎵

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