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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're talking about these people.

So of course they would also prefer a Nazi.

Anything but "the other team" winning.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know it's so normalized now, but their ancestors would be ashamed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Never mind their ancestors, their past selves. Do you think they would have worn a shirt like that under Reagan? Or even under Bush Jr.? They would have screamed at anyone they saw wearing a shirt like that about being some sort of commie traitor. Despite Bush Jr. being post-communism.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that would require 100% voter turnout, when the US doesn't even come close. please try and remember that. if you go off just voting age population, only 27.18% of people voted for cheeto man. if you include everyone, that figure drops to just 20.59%.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

what ?!?

so 1 in 5 decided for the whole country?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, and if you don't like that, there's a lot of work to be done. Grab a shovel

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Done, what do i do with it now? Smack people?

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

40% of North Carolina. Out of the whole US the percentage of crazy is higher.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

over 50% last I saw and it looked way over. could be like 55.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The percentage of votes Trump receives is not out of 100% of the USA population, it's out of however many voted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Rough numbers/back of the napkin trigger warning. 73 million out of a population of 337 million is roughly 21.7% of the population. Remember that when Ds and Rs yell about “half the country”

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

still. over 50% of the electorate who cared to vote. its almost worse in some ways. over 50% of the best of us.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wouldn't say the best. There are a lot of people who love to vote R and especially for Trump because they think that fucking up other people's lives will make their life better. Some, like my father-in-law, are irredeemable assholes that love irredeemable assholes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Fucking up other people's lives is basically the status quo for capitalists.

If other people get benefits you don't, either because you don't need them, or you don't want them, then they see it as a hand out, giving their money to the filthy poors to unjustly elevate them potentially above those that they are taking from.

Aggressive capitalists see everything as a race/ladder. Being in a better position than someone else because you're more wealthy/powerful/whatever, is the most important factor, and any kind of charity regarding providing basic needs to those who fall upon hard times is seen as a sin.

It's a demented and selfish mentality that's unnecessarily cruel to those less fortunate, simply because they can be. Anyone "below" them on the ladder (or "behind" them in the race), is less than them. So they idolize anyone who they view as "successful" or "wealthy" because they see them as "winning" the race. Something they desperately want to achieve.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I don't get trump voters but the fact is they are engaged in their democracy. They are more responsible for the election of trump but the fact is I would not want to live in a democracy that attempted to filter out folks like that from voting because of course you can't trust any filter like that. Ironically one reason I vote against them is because they talk about limitinig the voting pool to get rid of the groups that don't vote right. I guess the real irony is the ones who don't vote are sorta doing what they want without them having to legislate it.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's small comfort, but a large portion of that 40% just vote straight R all the way down the ballot without the slightest bit of knowledge of who they are voting for.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

That's no comfort at all..

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Honestly, this is so, so important. They're as unreachable as MAGAts and it's time to stop pretending otherwise. Moderate policies watering down every single plan, "reaching out" to the other side with centrist compromises that will excite and energize exactly no one... I guarantee you, there's many rural, low-educated voters that will never in their lives put a 'D' on their ballot no matter what. We need to actually show what we can do for workers in this country with big, bold legislation that will tangibly improve people's lives.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am guessing most of that large portion were still aware of the "black Nazi" shit and it wasn't enough to make them think maybe they shouldn't vote straight R.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I don't think many R voters in NC have any contact with news outside of the ~~fox~~ ~~breitbart~~ ~~oann~~ whatever conservative talking head is popular now.

On the other hand I agree that if they heard about it it wouldn't have changed their vote, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

That is where the fostering of the idea that the media is unreliable comes in. Even if they heard this, they didn't believe it to be true.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

35% is his ride or die base. The rest is just dumb as shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

penis-in-mouth crazy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

sounds about right.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

Robinson seems like someone I would expect Americans to vote for. If you really think about it, it's because they are themselves like him.