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[–] [email protected] 4 points 29 minutes ago

NATO will kick us to the curb and rise to the challenge. We will need them one day and they will say no.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Nato without USA is still bigger military than Russia.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

But with a fraction of the nukes, which is the actual big stick part of NATO

[–] [email protected] 5 points 40 minutes ago

In the game of nukes you don’t really need many.

You can destroy the world just so many times.

The rest is just for showing who has it bigger (the arsenal)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 54 minutes ago

But are we bringing nukes to a biological warfare... umm... party? Or hell, AI drones/nanobots?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Yep, and thankfully the EU has seen the way the US is going and started to react appropriately.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 hours ago

I think that’s unlikely.

But I also thought Trump winning was unlikely,

So what do I know?

[–] [email protected] 80 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (43 children)

Good job to all of the fucks who stayed home because of Gaza, thinking that not voting and letting the GOP rise to power would actually help the situation.

Yeah, because Netanyahu's extreme right-wing policy was a problem with the US's left-wing party, right?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 hours ago

Millions of people stayed home. I really doubt Gaza was the reason for all of them.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

I doubt Gaza was the deciding factor for 20 million people, but I could be wrong. Especially since anyone that aware of the whole would see trump would worsen the situation not improve it. I'm curious why they did stay home.

I also guess Americans don't want a woman president and they do want a hard crackdown on migrants. Especially Latinos, who apparently overwhelmingly came out for trump.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I also guess Americans don’t want a woman president and they do want a hard crackdown on migrants. Especially Latinos, who apparently overwhelmingly came out for trump.

Latinos voting for hard crackdowns on immigrants is the biggest "fuck you, I've got mine" energy I've ever seen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 33 minutes ago

And they will be so fucking shocked when ice comes for them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

By far, the overwhelming Biden derangement syndrome factor was "transgenders exist and are in my news feed". That healthcare is available to prisoners and immigrants, means that they are all receiving gender reassignment surgeries. This is democrats fault.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

The fact people can't differentiate edge cases from the norm is a general education issue. But their pushback was anemic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

It wasn't deciding factor at all. People get far too internet poisoned and fail to realize how the median voter is actually motivated in this country. Foreign policy is nearly irrelevant to most voters.

If there is any validity to the idea that Harris' position on gaza tanked the campaign it's in the motivated active base lost interest in giving their time, sweat, and energy to putting boots on the ground for someone that has made every promise to continue bombing children.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, that'll teach the do-nothing-dems!!1

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Good job the democrats alienating their base by trending right. I get you but this was completely avoidable if the democrats were competent and not a big circlejerk for themselves. Bernie could have beat that spastic in 2016.

Gaza is a serious issue, the US is supporting a genocide. If you cant come out against that then why bother, there isnt much more important to a lot of people. I know Trump will be worse for the region, they do too but if you cant take a principled position that aligns with people you cant complain they didnt vote for you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

You can be rightfully mad at the party that's failing to represent you correctly (I certainly am) and still make the pragmatic choice of not getting the guy who will make those issues worse elected.

We need to come together nationally and locally to attempt to affect change within the DNC more often than every 4 years, because it seems like every time we're all reminded how incompetent they are, it's too late for us to do anything about it for that election cycle.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Good job the democrats alienating their base by trending right

Ok, but

Bernie could have beat that spastic in 2016.

Bernie lost in the primaries, it’s our own fault (I voted for him…)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Bernie lost in the primaries

DNC primaries are a joke. look at this last primary. oh wait we didn't actually have a primary.

they intentionally waited until the "primary" was over so that Biden could get the incumbent automatic primary votes and then let him drop out so they could rush in Kamala without having a real primary.

i firmly believe if Democrats were not trying to game democracy this presidential cycle, DNC would have had a chance to beat Trump

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

they intentionally waited until the “primary” was over so that Biden could get the incumbent automatic primary votes and then let him drop out so they could rush in Kamala without having a real primary.

If that was the case, they would have done it sooner. Kamala stepping in was definitely an unplanned, and unprecedented, move. It's a huge risk to drop the incumbent in favor of somebody else.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The mythical left dem base doesn't out vote average centerist group. If you are looking for a perfect group you'll never find it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 38 minutes ago

In support of that viewpoint, if they were ready to vote but just wanted to vote for someone who touted their interests, they'd have been there for a third party candidate, but they just were no where to be found.

Would be interested to see why people sat it out. To the extent it was something utterly mundane like "couldn't afford to take any time off work to get it done".

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[–] [email protected] 139 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (8 children)

I mean if Europe wants to increase their military funding and move items in house I think that would be a wonderful idea. Because America is not a reliable partner in this at all in the past two decades.

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