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any piece of advice is welcome

P.S. Thanks to all the people that have taken their time to help me (and not just me, but others as well). It is much appreciated, and, from what Iβ€˜ve read, the β€žcold turkeyβ€œ method seems the most appealing to me. Iβ€˜ll quit smoking today, on the 7th of November 2024.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I'm going to tell you what worked for me. There's a very good chance you'll hate it and I will get flak.

Cold Turkey.

You physically stop yourself from purchasing cigarettes and not ask for them in social situations. You make a line in the sand and never cross that point again.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Cold turkey worked for me. Took me 4 attempts. I wasn't hard on myself for failure, I noted what happened (emotional trauma, stress, alcohol) and prepared myself for the next attempt.

I wanted to quit, so when I relapsed it's not because I wanted to smoke but because those little cancer stick bastards were trying hardest to kill me. But if they were going to be tough, I could be tougher. I found it easier when I could see the cigs as my enemy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Honestly, this is it. You have to want it, and you just have to do it. You'll feel "sick" for a while but you just have to muscle that out.

I know it's easier said than done, but it really is that simple. Just stop.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is also the only thing that worked for me

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I did the same and can confirm it worked. First two weeks will be the worst, then it'll be easier. Just be stuborn and aware that your will is stronger then a habit and that it doesn't have power over you. The urge to smoke will remain but at that point you need to be aware that even if you're convinced you want a smoke, it will taste really terrible when you actually do it and you will regret you broke your streak of non-smoking days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I do confirm that cigarettes taste awful now.

[–] Travelator 5 points 1 month ago

Cold Turkey. Yes. That's exactly what I did, in 2014, after 20 years of smoking, and it works. You must decide, absolutely, NEVER AGAIN. Not even a brush close to smoking again. After a week, it was easier. After a month, it was a new way of life, and a much better one. You'll see.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Cold turkey worked for me. But it wasn't this big thing. One day I didn't want to go to the gas station to get more and that turned into, how long could I go? And now I smoke once a year on my friends birthday and HATE the taste.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I quit by switching to vaping and then working the nicotine level down to nothing and then quitting that. Whatever you decide to do I wish you the best of luck (and stick with it!)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Same here. Fuck the naysayers who say cold turkey or nothing. Do what works for you.

For OP: One caveat to the vape plan is you'll likely need to get a vape that's refillable so you can customize the nicotine level. Juul/vuse/disposables typically only come in one, or at best, 2 nicotine levels, which prevents effective tapering.

Also, don't fall into the trap of vaping places you wouldn't have smoked (e.g. in your house/car). That can increase your nicotine dependency.

Good luck!

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you don't have the willpower or don't really want to, you will fail. It's nearly all willpower.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

*Crys in depression which fuels smoking more

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I switched to a vape and progressively got lower nicotine amounts until I was at 0 and then stopping was easy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Same. I just kept diluting the liquid with 0% nicotine until, months later, I realized I didn't even want to vape any more.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yes. This worked for me as well. Smoked a pack or more a day for 14 years, within a year I just put the vape down. 10 year anniversary of last cig coming up!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You have to want to stop. I smoked 13 years, stopped several times, but the final real stopping was not that hard.

What also worked quite well for me as a crutch were nicotine free cigarettes. I decided I'd smoke as many of those as I wanted. Started with 20 at the first day and it slowly reduced by itself over time, till at one point o completly stopped without even realizing it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Say what. I feel like I'm addicted to the feeling of smoke being inhaled. Vapes reck me and I can't stop coughing.

What are these things you speak of

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh, apparently they are called herbal cigarettes. Consist off some non tobacco leafs. Here in Germany they are sold in pharmacies.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Here's my advice on how to really and actually quit: make the decision to quit, and keep making that decision. Every time you feel yourself thinking "just one more.." remake that decision to quit. This was the only way I was successful. Keep making that decision and keep reminding yourself about your decision. You can do it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The way I implemented this strategy was to make sure I had a single cigarette and lighter on me at all times. I named the cigarette, which psychologically helped prevent me from smoking it. I stuck that out for a few months until a friend smoked it in desperation. At that point I felt confident I'd quit because I wanted to, not because of random circumstance.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

My grandma quit using a program that basically attempted to break your habits.

She did things like:

-if you normally have a smoke break at noon, wait til 12:30. Tomorrow do it at 11:30 instead

-If you normally use a lighter, switch to matches, tomorrow use a lighter.

-On Monday, Wednesday,Friday switch to a different brand of cigarettes ... next week go the opposite days.

-Smoke, but every other drag put a pen in your mouth instead.

-Only allow yourself to smoke half a cigarette and then chew a stick of gum for the rest of the time you would normally smoke

-Alternate smoke breaks between smoking and chewing nicotine gum or using the patch (I don't think she used the patch so I'm guessing on that one).

And just a lot of things like that that didn't specifically stop you from smoking, but attempted to stop it being a mindless thing that you just do on reflex without much thought and made it so before lighting up she'd have to think about what the current rules are ... at a certain point, the habit has been broken and you don't seek it... it worked great for her. Was a 6 month or so process and then she never went back once she finished her last pack.

There was a whole program around it with those types of rules and things you'd do and time restrictions on certain days and stuff ... sorry, she passed a few years back and I can't ask her the name of the program.

Good luck! Just remember that even if you lapse, any length of time that you're able to smoke less or stop smoking all improve your overall health! Even if you have a setback, any time that you stop is still a win!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

IRL social network is a major factor.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The patches are good options in my opinion but ultimately I just needed to drop nicotine all together and have the willpower to say no.

Edit: the best piece of advice I can give is you have to be deadly serious about not smoking, anything less than full commitment is a failed attempt.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

What worked for me was to stop seeing friends that smoked and to go for a run every time I felt like getting a cigarette, instead of getting the cigarette.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Get a quality vape device. Start with 18mg tobacco flavored vape. Try to always vape instead of smoke, but don't beat yourself up if you smoke. Just keep doing it. Eventually you'll notice that you're vaping more than smoking, and some time after that you'll realize that you haven't smoked in days. At that point you're basically free. Throw your smokes away and keep vaping for a month or two or three. Then reduce your nicotine concentration to 12mg and keep vaping. Then reduce it to 6, then 3, then 0 mixed with 3, then just 0. You'll naturally quit within a couple weeks after switching to 0. You might want to switch off a tobacco flavor at some point during the process.

I didn't think I'd ever be able to quit smoking. I wanted to, and needed to, but I couldn't. I tried all of the other cessation methods and none of them worked long term. I tried the above and it fucking worked! The best part is that it wasn't hard. It all happened pretty naturally.

It's important that you get a good vape device that gives good throat hit and feels like a cigarette. Don't get a massive cloud machine, and don't get a rinky dink disposable device. Try to get one with a round mouthpiece that is the same size as a cigarette.

You can totally do this! If I can do it, then anyone can do it!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was a heavy smoker for thirty years. I quit...16 days ago. So I might not be the best to advise you on this as I'm still just getting started myself. I have quit a few times in the past though, and I can tell you what is making this time easier. First, realize that nicotine is not the problem. That's out of your system in a few days, from what I understand. It's the habit that screws it up for you. And I am definitely feeling that. I no longer have that treat to look forward to when I get home. I don't have anything to do when I'm frustrated trying to figure something out at work. I can't go outside and have one to relax and think about things. Some of my best work was accomplished while taking a smoke break. Anyway, the way I dealt with that was to start breaking the habits first. Start small. Here's what I did. First, no smoking in the house. Took some time to get used to that. Next, no smoking in the car. That took a while, because I drive a lot, but eventually I got used to it. Then, no smoking at work. Didn't even bring them with me. The reason for all this was to get myself used to the idea of not smoking during these times, so that when I stopped it wouldn't bother me as much. While I'm at work, I'm used to not smoking at work so it doesn't bother me. Same thing with the driving. So, once I got all that down, I set things up so that I would finish my last pack right before I went to bed on Sunday night. That way I wake up and go right to work. A good head start. So, that's where I am now. And it definitely helped. Nothing will ever kill cravings completely, but for me this made things easier. It still sucks though. A lot. So willpower is still going to be a big factor. I wish you luck. It won't be easy. However, if it helps, I can tell you that even after only two weeks it has made a huge difference in my mood, and drastically reduced my stress levels. Aside from being a constant stimulant, I'm also not in a hurry all the time, just trying to get to that next smoke break. I don't worry about how many I have. Things like that. So, just do it. And stick with it. It's worth it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Well, there are several methods:

*Cold turkey: just stop and ride it out. You can do things like chew gum to help deal with the cravings. *Medication: Talk to your doctor *The Patch: follow instructions on box. *Nicotine Gum: use as directed *Vape: not the best method, but works for people.

Not an exhaustive list

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I quit overnight by accident. Got high on shrooms, tried to smoke, was disgusting, friend told me it's normal when high on shrooms and people use them to stop smoking. Sounded fun, stopped smoking.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

"Been on shrooms ever since"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

BRO I BEEN WANTING THIS TO HAPPEN TO ME SOOO BAD😭 glad you got your comeup tho😎🀞

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

You just don't smoke another one

That's how I quit anyway, no last smoke, no just this pack i already bought, just quit right now.

First time it lasted 6 months, the second time it's listed about 15 years

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Too many helpful comments here. My advice? Just lock in, bro πŸ—Ώ

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Not a smoker myself, but I can tell you what worked for my brother when he quit in college.

AC went out in his dorm during an August heat wave, and it took forever for them to fix it. He decided that it would be a perfect time to go cold turkey, since he'd be so miserable from the heat that the few days of nicotine withdraw wouldn't really be comparably bad. And he said it was right, he didn't think about it during the worst part, and by the time they fixed the AC, he was 90% of the way through the process.

So if you live in one of the parts of the world moving to summer right now, it might be worth a shot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Speaking from my own experience here is my method.

  1. Start by accepting that you will suffer, but think of the suffering like having a bad cold or the flu. You'll hate it but it will pass.

If you are quite a light smoker (handful per day) I would just quit and ride it out. If things get really bad allow yourself 1 but no more. You'll be surprised how quickly the worst cravings go away after a week.

If you're a heavy smoker take more of a run up to it, as follows.

Put off the first smoke of the day for as long as you can. E.g. if you usually smoke as soon as you get up then hold off until after breakfast. Next Day try for just before lunch, and so on over a week or so. Try to also put a gap between eating and smoking. Once you are down to a few a day then do the cold turkey thing.

The trick is actually not buying more cigarettes. If you have them till probably smoke them. But if not, that barrier helps.

I smoked from about 19yo until I was in my early thirties (about 1 pack per day). I also spent the nights smoking a lot of spliffs as well (that's weed with rolling tobacco). Now I only smoke Weed when I go down to see my friends which is like twice a year. I bring back enough tobacco to make 3 or 4 small roll ups which gets me through the come down over the following week. Then it is done.

Quitting the first time is fuck hard but the cravings pass. Now I find it quite easy because I'm used to doing it.

Good luck. You can do it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There is no trick. This will require active repragramming from you for months.

I couldn't find a quit method that took the fight out of my addiction. You have to want to quit more than your addiction. That's nice but doesn't mean much.

I found in practice, this equates to action in meeting cravings with determination. Even if you don't really feel it. You're used to feeling anxious/angry/sad/sorry for yourself when you can't have a cigarette. Take back that moment, that feeling. Redefine it. It's a battle you're choosing, and the best thing you can do is practice fighting it.

The plus side is, the battle will change as you fight it. So you won't get bored!

The first two weeks are the hardest.

You already know the first fight, if you've ever had to wait for the shops to open to buy some cigarettes or tobacco. You've just got to raw dog that. It's going to suck, but it will at least suck with purpose.

After about 4 days, I started getting spiky, intense cravings that passed after about 30 mins to an hour. Several times a day.

By week two, I only struggled when I was around smokers, saw it on tv, read about it, had a drink (it's still hard).

There was a resurgence in cravings in month two. I felt I'd earned a puff or two. This is a trap. Notice it, it's a useful trigger to double down on deciding not to smoke

I'm now a year in off of vaping and cigarettes. It's still sometimes hard, but mostly I don't think about it, except to be glad I don't need to go for a smoke. I don't miss things at parties anymore. I don't miss moments with my daughter. Plane rides are way easier.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I overpressure myself, as if I was constipated, each time I get cravings. I basically make my body as uncomfortable as I can so it learns that cravings=pain.

In the past, I've used hand rolled tobacco to ween myself off. It's a lot harder to just grab a smoke when driving for instance. But cold turkey is best. I usually wait until I get sick before starting stopping since it tends to skip the nasty craving in the first few days. After a week or two, it gets much easier.

Remember, having a smoke every now and then will work until it doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I dont have advice but best of luck with it!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not the answer you want, but for me, I quit cold turkey after smoking a pack a day for 15 years.

The thing that helped is that I wasn't being forced to quit for health or social reasons. I simply realized that all smoking a cigarette was doing was making me not want to smoke another cigarette for 30 minutes. I felt I had no more desire to continue the trend.

The first week sucked. I ended up rolling loose-leaf paper into the cylindrical shape of a cigarette, putting Scotch tape on one end, and poking holes into it so that dragging on it felt like dragging on a cigarette. That actually got me through week 2.

After that, the pull to smoke was far, far weaker. It's weird. It ends up coming in waves. You're fine, you're fine, then you get an overwhelming urge to light up. The need lasts for about 30 seconds and goes away quickly. Over time, the frequency between those cravings gets longer, and the cravings get smaller. At some point, I just didn't feel like smoking at all anymore.

But yeah, the first few weeks are not great.

Best of luck!

Edit: my main advice here is that if you don't feel like you really want to quit, you're going to have a much harder time. If your plan is to taper down, it may be torture. If you're plan is "I'll only show myself this one" every so often, it's going to be a long, drawn out losing process.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'll tell you the strategy that worked for me last time (quit for ~2 years), and that I'm using this time.

  • Switch to a vape. Lung capacity increases immediately, and you get rid of the bad smell. If you haven't vaped, give yourself some time to get used to the different habit (no cigarette packing ritual anymore etc)
  • Buy a 0 nicotine vape or two, or find a local place you can get them easily. This is your "inside" vape.
  • Buy a refillable vape and get nicotine liquid roughly equivalent to the full-nic vape you switched to from cigarettes. This is your "outside" vape.
  • Start restricting the locations you use the full-nic vape. I work from home, so I don't vape full-nic at my desk, I walk outside to do it. You want to break the absent-minded vaping+work or vaping+tv habit.
  • Step your nicotine intake down over as long a period as you like, but don't ever step it back up. First time I quit, I did it over about a year. That's a little extreme. You could probably do it over a few months.
  • Once you're on 0 nic all the time, either stay with that, or gradually wean yourself off the habit as well. This is much easier without the chemical addiction.

Good luck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Here's my advice.

Rule #1: Avoid evironments that make you want to smoke (e.g. the bar, hanging out with smoker friends)

Rule #2: Get some drugs. Not the fun kind. Talk to your doctor and they'll likely prescribe you a low dose of Welbutrin or an alternative that you'll take for the first few months.

Rule #3: Don't be too hard on yourself. You're going to slip up. That's okay. You don't have to give up and start over.

Rule #4: Make it hurt (your wallet). If you buy a pack, have one cigarette, then snap the pack in half and throw it in the trash.

Rule #5: Replace your smoke breaks with another habit (e.g. going for a walk)

Rule #6: Learn to hate the smell. Wash your clothes, clean your car. Then, when you slip up after getting unused to the scent, you'll be fully aware of just how pungent that cigarette smell is.

God speed, comrade. It's a journey.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I switched to vaping, then gradually lowered the nicotine levels in my juice over time until I was vaping 0 nic for two months. Then I realized I no longer needed it, and stopped vaping altogether, quitting nicotine for good. This was back when you could get high quality juice sent to you in the mail, though, which is no longer possible, IIRC.

Obligatory TBD Liquids and Blue Dot Vapors, absolute GOAT.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is a med called Welbutrin which can be prescribed for quitting smoking and it works really well. It's also prescribed as an antidepressant so one of my smoker friends was on it for that reason and they almost completely quit smoking without even trying to. Of course, it is not without It's sideeffects but among antidepressants it is one of the usually best tolerated ones. I'm on it for my depression now and the only issue I have is that it can make me really anxious, but I'm also on nearly the maximum dose where for smoking cessation you wouldn't be taking anything close to that amount.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Alan Carr's stop smoking book is highly regarded, and encourages you to smoke as you read along, until by the end you won't want to.

Combine that with a NAC supplement (which doesn't do anything for withdrawals, but studies show it makes trying smoking again far more unpleasant for your brain which helps you stay off them.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

If you haven't already tried it, "The easy way to quit smoking" by Allen Carr has helped many people. I haven't tried his other subjects, but I recall his take on smoking in the book to seem relatively revolutionary to me at the time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Nothing worked for me until Covid came and I've stopped seeing my friends who smoked. Best of luck on your endeavour!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Pretty old video now but it explains why you smoke and helps to stop.

Probably safer to use qbittorrent's built in search to find it.

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